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timqoo Senior	09-Aug-2011 20:29        timqoo About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Buffett vs S& P. who is the more powerful? his Berkshire kena downgraded. Buffett maybe planning or already executed his next big steps. He may be an octogenarian, but Warren Buffett is plenty feisty. And today he got into a bit of a back-and-forth with Standard & Poor’s over the ratings agency’s decision to downgrade U.S. debt to AA+ from AAA. Standard & Poor’s later came out with a decision to change the outlook on Berkshire Hathaway’s (BRKB) credit rating to Negative from Stable. Berkshire currently has a AA+ rating. Berkshire was one of five insurers that had their ratings placed on watch for a possible downgrade five others had their ratings cut to AA+ from AAA. “The 10 affected insurance groups operate in the U.S. and generally have significant holdings of U.S. Treasury and agency securities,” S& P said. Buffett said in an interview today with Fox Business Network that S& P was essentially confused about its job. “Their [S& P] job is to say whether bond instruments will be fulfilled, and they will be fulfilled… people confuse ability of the U.S. to pay debt obligations in dollars vs. what the dollar is actually worth.” After the Berkshire downgrade he said: “They’re doing that to all the insurance companies. They said they’d do that last week.” Source: Wrestling with the Oracle
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rotijai Supreme	09-Aug-2011 20:21        rotijai About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	tat's very biased ! master ipunter   iPunter      ( Date: 09-Aug-2011 20:20) Posted:
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iPunter Supreme	09-Aug-2011 20:20        iPunter About Contact  Quote this Post!
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rotijai Supreme	09-Aug-2011 20:08        rotijai About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	wat do u expect ah ben to comment ? we have another QE3 ? Sgshares      ( Date: 09-Aug-2011 19:55) Posted: Most likely tomorrow STI is an BIG UP if tonight FED statement is good
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Sgshares Elite	09-Aug-2011 19:55        Sgshares About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Most likely tomorrow STI is an BIG UP if tonight FED statement is good
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timqoo Senior	09-Aug-2011 19:51        timqoo About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
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MasterNg9999 Senior	09-Aug-2011 19:41        MasterNg9999 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Isnt Human center of the universe???"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Confirm Bull, Bear and Hulumas' Trap....   S& P Cuts AAA Rating On Thousands Of Municipal Bonds The much awaited cut by S& P of thousands of municipal bonds following its August 5 downgrade of the US has arrived. Per Bloomberg: " The rating company assigned AA+ scores to securities in the $2.9 trillion municipal bond market including school- construction bonds in Irving, Texas debt backed by a federal lease in Miami and a bond series for multifamily housing in Oceanside, California. Olayinka Fadahunsi, an S& P spokesman, said he couldn’t provide a dollar figure on the affected debt. “It’s expected, but nobody is happy about it,” Bud Byrnes, chief executive officer of Encino, California-based RH Investment Corp., said in a telephone interview. “No one that I know thinks it was justified to cut the U.S. bonds to AA+. Once that happened, you knew that any prerefunded bonds or escrowed bonds would be downgraded too. It’s a domino effect.”" Well, Bud, if you really have so few acquaintances, we suggest you go out more. There are some fun bars on Ventura: give us a call for the low down. As for people who do go out more, here's one: " Chris Mier, a managing director at Loop Capital Markets LLC in Chicago who follows the municipal bond market, said the downgrades made sense, given the federal rating cut. “In order to keep the system logical and coherent, there are going to be a lot of downgrades,” Mier said in a conference call with reporters and clients." Matt Fabian, a managing director of Concord, Massachusetts- based Municipal Market Advisors, a financial research company, said in a telephone interview that he expected “hundreds and hundreds of municipal downgrades,” which may hurt investor confidence. “Treasuries may be able to shake off a real impact from the downgrade,” he said. “Munis, I’m less sure about." That's ok, while nobody has any idea what is coming, that won't stop 99.9% of those on Comcast's financial comedy channel from opining anyway. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/sp-cuts-aaa-rating-thousands-municipal-bonds http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-07/muni-market-prepares-for-loss-of-aaa-ratings-as-s-p-downgrades-u-s-credit.html HULUMAS!!!!! PLEASE SAVE US !!!!!!! PLEASE BUY UP THE MARKET!!!! Cheer
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MasterNg9999 Senior	09-Aug-2011 19:32        MasterNg9999 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Isnt Human center of the universe???"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	More Bull, Bear and Hulumas' Trap ??? maybe more signal for Hulumas to BUY BUY BUY !!!!! BUY!!!!!! Cheer
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steadylar Veteran	09-Aug-2011 19:27        steadylar About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	US futures suddenly turned very green
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MasterNg9999 Senior	09-Aug-2011 18:00        MasterNg9999 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Isnt Human center of the universe???"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Another 600 points down the drain?   Dow Jones Indus. Sep 11 aka DJI Futures .... Last Trade:10,600.00 Change: 126.00 (1.17%) Ready Your Popcorn And Coke .... ETA 4.5 Hour .... Cheer
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iPunter Supreme	09-Aug-2011 17:03        iPunter About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Rotiboy is right...     At no time be contentious...                Simply because no one knows the trend... rotijai      ( Date: 09-Aug-2011 16:25) Posted: master rabbitfoot, i think we should just save $ and wait for the blue chip to fall 30-40% of the current value.. or even better.. 20% cant imagine we will have great world sale of blue chips at 70-80% discount ! iPunter      ( Date: 09-Aug-2011 16:12) Posted: You are still acting human...        ie buy when you think it's cheap (re 'last chance')...
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junction Senior	09-Aug-2011 16:57        junction About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It is every investors dream to buy low and sell high.  Anyone who can do that consistently with whatever tools he has at his disposal will be one of  the greatest traders in the world.  And those who can buy at the lowest and sell at the juicy peaks  consistently can put Warren Buffet in his pocket for even he has lost money before. My experienced friends say it is because nobody can consistently predict the lowest and the highest that they have  decided  on value investing. And they do average down.  I notice investors and traders have different strategies.  Each has its own merits. alexchia01      ( Date: 09-Aug-2011 16:28) Posted: Yes, they are wise, but not the wisest. A wise investor will Buy at the low and keep the stocks as long as the company is doing well. A wiser investor will Buy at the low, Sell at the High and Buy back at the low again. The wisest investor will Buy at the low, Sell at the High, Short from the high and Buy back at the low again. If they don't read charts, it simply mean they Buy at the low and that's it... They are wise, just not the wisest. junction      ( Date: 09-Aug-2011 16:13) Posted: I am talking about a group of very experienced investors who have experienced many crashes and booms  whom I know personally.  Let me quote them 'charts follow events and not the other way'.  These people have made their money not by trading everyday or everyweek but once in a while and events like these are opportunites for them.  Even if the market were to crash 60 to 70 percent they are still in the black.  Are they not wise
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rotijai Supreme	09-Aug-2011 16:41        rotijai About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	hm.. those who happily bought in euro just now.. now lost 3-4% of their portfolio :/
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alexchia01 Elite	09-Aug-2011 16:28        alexchia01 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "Catch The Stars And Ride With Them"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, they are wise, but not the wisest. A wise investor will Buy at the low and keep the stocks as long as the company is doing well. A wiser investor will Buy at the low, Sell at the High and Buy back at the low again. The wisest investor will Buy at the low, Sell at the High, Short from the high and Buy back at the low again. If they don't read charts, it simply mean they Buy at the low and that's it... They are wise, just not the wisest. junction      ( Date: 09-Aug-2011 16:13) Posted: I am talking about a group of very experienced investors who have experienced many crashes and booms  whom I know personally.  Let me quote them 'charts follow events and not the other way'.  These people have made their money not by trading everyday or everyweek but once in a while and events like these are opportunites for them.  Even if the market were to crash 60 to 70 percent they are still in the black.  Are they not wise? alexchia01      ( Date: 09-Aug-2011 10:41) Posted: Nobody knows if this is just a deep correction or this is the beginning of a recession. Yes, experienced investors are getting their ammunition to buy if STI continues to drop some more, but this buy is not necessary long-term. Yes, experienced investors made a tons of money in every major crash, but this is not consider a crash yet. Yes, experienced investors do buy value stocks, but it's not true they don't follow charts, some of them do. Investing is Buying value stocks at an undervalued price at the bottom of a market crash. Right now... value stocks are not really undervalued and the market is not at the bottom yet.
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rotijai Supreme	09-Aug-2011 16:25        rotijai About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	master rabbitfoot, i think we should just save $ and wait for the blue chip to fall 30-40% of the current value.. or even better.. 20% cant imagine we will have great world sale of blue chips at 70-80% discount ! iPunter      ( Date: 09-Aug-2011 16:12) Posted: You are still acting human...        ie buy when you think it's cheap (re 'last chance')... rabbitfoot      ( Date: 09-Aug-2011 16:02) Posted: Trading share is no joke. 1 week can wipe out 7 months of  hard-earned contra earnings. Sigh..how to  quit job to be full-time trader ? Tomorrow morning may be last chance to buy ...
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iPunter Supreme	09-Aug-2011 16:18        iPunter About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If it tanks some more, that was a real juicy peak,     which is such a rare treat in this situation... alexchia01      ( Date: 09-Aug-2011 16:13) Posted: Hang Seng falls back down again. I guess the Bull is not as strong as we hope.
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alexchia01 Elite	09-Aug-2011 16:13        alexchia01 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "Catch The Stars And Ride With Them"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hang Seng falls back down again. I guess the Bull is not as strong as we hope.
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junction Senior	09-Aug-2011 16:13        junction About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I am talking about a group of very experienced investors who have experienced many crashes and booms  whom I know personally.  Let me quote them 'charts follow events and not the other way'.  These people have made their money not by trading everyday or everyweek but once in a while and events like these are opportunites for them.  Even if the market were to crash 60 to 70 percent they are still in the black.  Are they not wise? alexchia01      ( Date: 09-Aug-2011 10:41) Posted: Nobody knows if this is just a deep correction or this is the beginning of a recession. Yes, experienced investors are getting their ammunition to buy if STI continues to drop some more, but this buy is not necessary long-term. Yes, experienced investors made a tons of money in every major crash, but this is not consider a crash yet. Yes, experienced investors do buy value stocks, but it's not true they don't follow charts, some of them do. Investing is Buying value stocks at an undervalued price at the bottom of a market crash. Right now... value stocks are not really undervalued and the market is not at the bottom yet.   junction      ( Date: 09-Aug-2011 10:17) Posted: My very experienced investor friends are getting ready with their ammunition to buy if STI can repeat the drop of the past two days.  They are what you would call buy when everybody is scared and so far they have made tons of money in every major crash.  They buy when they see value, not following charts, and they invest medium to long term with funds they can spare.  You make your own judgements and good luck
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iPunter Supreme	09-Aug-2011 16:12        iPunter About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You are still acting human...        ie buy when you think it's cheap (re 'last chance')... rabbitfoot      ( Date: 09-Aug-2011 16:02) Posted: Trading share is no joke. 1 week can wipe out 7 months of  hard-earned contra earnings. Sigh..how to  quit job to be full-time trader ? Tomorrow morning may be last chance to buy ...
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rotijai Supreme	09-Aug-2011 16:12        rotijai About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	master junwei.. a strong rebound can happen intra-day, it doesnt have to end up green or very green to be a rebound.. u see hang seng.. rebounded from 18800 to 20k+ tat's a more than 1k rebound (5%).. JUNWEI9756      ( Date: 09-Aug-2011 16:04) Posted: Dow's failure to close above 11000 last night is a sign of weakness. Next support short be at 10000. After that strong rebound expected.
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