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alexchia01 Elite	07-May-2011 13:37        alexchia01 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "Catch The Stars And Ride With Them"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Investing and Trading is a skill that can be taught, but it's through actual doing that you will learn. 2 things must be ready for you to succeed. 1. Strategies 2. Emotional Control. Strategies are not fixed. As market condition changes, your strategy must also change. Too many people are fixed on 1 strategy, so when market condition changes, suddenly their strategy don't work and they are stuck. Emotional control comes from understanding. When you understand why market moves in certain direction and why you are taking the certain actions at certain time, you'll have better control. However, this is something that cannot be taught, but through experience. Hawkeye      ( Date: 07-May-2011 12:41) Posted: Investment and trading in stock market is a skill. If it can be taught then people had no need to work and just trade and make money. If the strategy and skill is made know to everyone then it will not be a useful tool to make money anymore. Richman      ( Date: 07-May-2011 11:34) Posted: Can we select you to be our mentor?
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Juzztrade Veteran	07-May-2011 13:32        Juzztrade About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood: Yells: "Techincal and long term investor"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hawkeye      ( Date: 07-May-2011 12:41) Posted: Investment and trading in stock market is a skill. If it can be taught then people had no need to work and just trade and make money. If the strategy and skill is made know to everyone then it will not be a useful tool to make money anymore. Richman      ( Date: 07-May-2011 11:34) Posted: Can we select you to be our mentor?
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alexchia01 Elite	07-May-2011 12:58        alexchia01 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "Catch The Stars And Ride With Them"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Please lah... You think someone who can turn $10,000 to $100,000 wants to work for GIC or Temasek? He just trade a couple of hours everyday and go have fun liao. Why bother himself with cooperate politics and unnecessary worries? Beside, GIC and Temasek are too blind to see these people also. They want to see the Financial Degree from some prestige universities, which successful traders usually don't have. Richman      ( Date: 07-May-2011 00:53) Posted: If so good, GICC & Tamasick will head hunt that person laio. Hahahah warrenbegger      ( Date: 07-May-2011 00:27) Posted: I was once a very very very  small player too :) If U really good. $10,000 really can turn into $100,000+ If U anyhow whack. $100,000,000 can free fall to $1,000- Different player different skill and view...
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Hawkeye Veteran	07-May-2011 12:41        Hawkeye About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Investment and trading in stock market is a skill. If it can be taught then people had no need to work and just trade and make money. If the strategy and skill is made know to everyone then it will not be a useful tool to make money anymore. Richman      ( Date: 07-May-2011 11:34) Posted: Can we select you to be our mentor? alexchia01      ( Date: 07-May-2011 00:03) Posted: I disagree with you on small players will always lose. Because you have unlimited fund, you do not value the skills that we traders possessed. To you, as price goes down, you just continue to Buy because you have unlimited fund coming in cushion your wrong entries. We traders have limited fund, to us right entry and exit is important and our strategies is designed to maximize our profits and minimized our losses. Losing $200K is small issue to you because you know that tomorrow there will be more fund coming in. Losing $200K to some of us would means die liao. This is why we watch our trades very closely. An investor knows when to Buy and when to Stop. He knows he get the best value for the stocks he Buy and it'll eventually ripe him good rewards. He don't Buy when the price rise above the intrinsic value of the company. A traders knows when to Long and when to Short. He knows where the price is going and capitalized on the price movement. He don't trade when there is no movement. All I see from you is Blind Buying of Capitaland even when you knows Capitaland's book value is $3.00. I hardly call this investing... You are just lucky because you have unlimited funds. Please show a little respect for the small players here. We may not have the unlimited fund you have, but we can turn $10,000 into $100,000 without any additional fund. This is something you cannot do.
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Richman Veteran	07-May-2011 11:34        Richman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Can we select you to be our mentor? alexchia01      ( Date: 07-May-2011 00:03) Posted: I disagree with you on small players will always lose. Because you have unlimited fund, you do not value the skills that we traders possessed. To you, as price goes down, you just continue to Buy because you have unlimited fund coming in cushion your wrong entries. We traders have limited fund, to us right entry and exit is important and our strategies is designed to maximize our profits and minimized our losses. Losing $200K is small issue to you because you know that tomorrow there will be more fund coming in. Losing $200K to some of us would means die liao. This is why we watch our trades very closely. An investor knows when to Buy and when to Stop. He knows he get the best value for the stocks he Buy and it'll eventually ripe him good rewards. He don't Buy when the price rise above the intrinsic value of the company. A traders knows when to Long and when to Short. He knows where the price is going and capitalized on the price movement. He don't trade when there is no movement. All I see from you is Blind Buying of Capitaland even when you knows Capitaland's book value is $3.00. I hardly call this investing... You are just lucky because you have unlimited funds. Please show a little respect for the small players here. We may not have the unlimited fund you have, but we can turn $10,000 into $100,000 without any additional fund. This is something you cannot do. capland      ( Date: 06-May-2011 23:09) Posted: small player will always lose, believe it or not. Why, cos of limited funds and thats is the killer. When price down, panick and sell, before u noticed that it had rebounced. Whenprice goes up. sell too early, and the price went up further. Like the tuft club, have u ever heard punters made monies? The winners is still the tuft club. U think the owners buy horses for u to win? How much the owners has to pay for the horses and monthly maintainance? This world is big eat small. small player will have disavantages compared to the bigger players. Don ever listen to any advise in the market. Only when u can holding tolerance, then u can play in the market. Shorting naked is the most risky , if u are new to  the stock market. margin can make u poor forever.
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Riskless Member	07-May-2011 09:17        Riskless About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Let's Wait"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Rich or poor can win in stock(99%) with some trading technique and plan. Fear and no patience are the 2 things that can make you lose money. My only regret is I sold my gold in 2010 when it was $850.... Hello...Isolator where are you??? $3 $3 $3 $3 $3
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infancybird Senior	07-May-2011 07:11        infancybird About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Well said capland. Your style is my style too. Longterm investor is just like owner of Casino, hardly lose money if he is wise. For the small non-pro traders, there is a saying...........For one successful trade  with  gain, there were many many smaller negative  trades too.  I had been around long enough to know many small non-pro traders lost just as many trades  as their profitable one so at the end of the year they make only small gain  .  Only problem is that they only boosted their successful trade when asked.          capland      ( Date: 06-May-2011 23:09) Posted: small player will always lose, believe it or not. Why, cos of limited funds and thats is the killer. When price down, panick and sell, before u noticed that it had rebounced. Whenprice goes up. sell too early, and the price went up further. Like the tuft club, have u ever heard punters made monies? The winners is still the tuft club. U think the owners buy horses for u to win? How much the owners has to pay for the horses and monthly maintainance? This world is big eat small. small player will have disavantages compared to the bigger players. Don ever listen to any advise in the market. Only when u can holding tolerance, then u can play in the market. Shorting naked is the most risky , if u are new to  the stock market. margin can make u poor forever. Peg_li      ( Date: 06-May-2011 22:56) Posted: you are really a rich guy. I think here most of us is not same class as you. most of forumers here still struggle for making small money from stock market. you play stock, just for fun at least now.
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Richman Veteran	07-May-2011 00:53        Richman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If so good, GICC & Tamasick will head hunt that person laio. Hahahah warrenbegger      ( Date: 07-May-2011 00:27) Posted: I was once a very very very  small player too :) If U really good. $10,000 really can turn into $100,000+ If U anyhow whack. $100,000,000 can free fall to $1,000- Different player different skill and view...
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warrenbegger Elite	07-May-2011 00:27        warrenbegger About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood: Yells: "Anyhow Buy Anyhow Die ^_^"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I was once a very very very  small player too :) If U really good. $10,000 really can turn into $100,000+ If U anyhow whack. $100,000,000 can free fall to $1,000- Different player different skill and view...
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alexchia01 Elite	07-May-2011 00:03        alexchia01 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "Catch The Stars And Ride With Them"
x 0   x 3  Alert Admin	I disagree with you on small players will always lose. Because you have unlimited fund, you do not value the skills that we traders possessed. To you, as price goes down, you just continue to Buy because you have unlimited fund coming in cushion your wrong entries. We traders have limited fund, to us right entry and exit is important and our strategies is designed to maximize our profits and minimized our losses. Losing $200K is small issue to you because you know that tomorrow there will be more fund coming in. Losing $200K to some of us would means die liao. This is why we watch our trades very closely. An investor knows when to Buy and when to Stop. He knows he get the best value for the stocks he Buy and it'll eventually ripe him good rewards. He don't Buy when the price rise above the intrinsic value of the company. A traders knows when to Long and when to Short. He knows where the price is going and capitalized on the price movement. He don't trade when there is no movement. All I see from you is Blind Buying of Capitaland even when you knows Capitaland's book value is $3.00. I hardly call this investing... You are just lucky because you have unlimited funds. Please show a little respect for the small players here. We may not have the unlimited fund you have, but we can turn $10,000 into $100,000 without any additional fund. This is something you cannot do. capland      ( Date: 06-May-2011 23:09) Posted: small player will always lose, believe it or not. Why, cos of limited funds and thats is the killer. When price down, panick and sell, before u noticed that it had rebounced. Whenprice goes up. sell too early, and the price went up further. Like the tuft club, have u ever heard punters made monies? The winners is still the tuft club. U think the owners buy horses for u to win? How much the owners has to pay for the horses and monthly maintainance? This world is big eat small. small player will have disavantages compared to the bigger players. Don ever listen to any advise in the market. Only when u can holding tolerance, then u can play in the market. Shorting naked is the most risky , if u are new to  the stock market. margin can make u poor forever. Peg_li      ( Date: 06-May-2011 22:56) Posted: you are really a rich guy. I think here most of us is not same class as you. most of forumers here still struggle for making small money from stock market. you play stock, just for fun at least now.
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warrenbegger Elite	06-May-2011 23:23        warrenbegger About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood: Yells: "Anyhow Buy Anyhow Die ^_^"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dont know why, this one i very agree with u :) capland      ( Date: 06-May-2011 23:09) Posted: small player will always lose, believe it or not. Why, cos of limited funds and thats is the killer. When price down, panick and sell, before u noticed that it had rebounced. Whenprice goes up. sell too early, and the price went up further. Like the tuft club, have u ever heard punters made monies? The winners is still the tuft club. U think the owners buy horses for u to win? How much the owners has to pay for the horses and monthly maintainance? This world is big eat small. small player will have disavantages compared to the bigger players. Don ever listen to any advise in the market. Only when u can holding tolerance, then u can play in the market. Shorting naked is the most risky , if u are new to  the stock market. margin can make u poor forever. Peg_li      ( Date: 06-May-2011 22:56) Posted: you are really a rich guy. I think here most of us is not same class as you. most of forumers here still struggle for making small money from stock market. you play stock, just for fun at least now.
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alexchia01 Elite	06-May-2011 23:16        alexchia01 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "Catch The Stars And Ride With Them"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Logically, you are right. But practically, it does not matter what the price is, when you trading the right stock. When you trade the right stock, it's easy to make money because the BBs are also helping you. Of course the cheaper the stock, the bigger the gain, but you can't always find the right cheap stocks to trade. If given a choice to trade a cheaper stock or an expensive stock, I would choose the cheaper stock. Hawkeye      ( Date: 06-May-2011 21:22) Posted: Capitaland is not a good trading stock. Its too expensive to be a good trading stock. Any stock with transaction of 10K to 20K of share diff price of 1 cents difference to breakeven, is a good trading stock. For share of a price of 1 cents diff transacted with direct buying or sell share price had to move at least 3 cents. Not easy right? BB do not allow you to earn that easy. Stock with price of 1.45 or less. Riskless      ( Date: 06-May-2011 17:28) Posted: 2.8 is a good omen! Let's wait..
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capland Veteran	06-May-2011 23:09        capland About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	small player will always lose, believe it or not. Why, cos of limited funds and thats is the killer. When price down, panick and sell, before u noticed that it had rebounced. Whenprice goes up. sell too early, and the price went up further. Like the tuft club, have u ever heard punters made monies? The winners is still the tuft club. U think the owners buy horses for u to win? How much the owners has to pay for the horses and monthly maintainance? This world is big eat small. small player will have disavantages compared to the bigger players. Don ever listen to any advise in the market. Only when u can holding tolerance, then u can play in the market. Shorting naked is the most risky , if u are new to  the stock market. margin can make u poor forever. Peg_li      ( Date: 06-May-2011 22:56) Posted: you are really a rich guy. I think here most of us is not same class as you. most of forumers here still struggle for making small money from stock market. you play stock, just for fun at least now.   capland      ( Date: 06-May-2011 22:39) Posted: u pay for value.  , from the day when cpl set up. My group has been playing with it. I still remember when it drops to 0.99 in 2002 . My group bought up to 3million shares. And we sell off at 5.00 in 2006-7. imagine 3 miilion dollars increased to mere 15million. I don believe it , but it just happened. When this share run, noone could chase. When it drops to 2.20, my groups graps again. Me alone already had 200++ lots. The others had accumulated @ 500-600 lots. Believed it or not. what i say is fact. among the property stocks, cpl had been depreciate too much compared to its peer. So, to me, any price to entry depend on yr tolerance. Short term trading is based on market forces, and long term holdings depend on cost averages. I believe in cash flow positive- so will not go under (CPL is one of them) . Those in business understd what i mean. Like myself and my group, we made money, lots of it, but we spent wisely. Invest heavily in stocks and oversea properties, and also recently bought a copper mine in Indonesia , together with the indo-chinese. So, when the bl**dy fool talk about " real monies" , i don know is there any " fake" monies? A few thousands or even tens of thousand can make u so sure that u are a " genius" in the market. As far as i know, no one in this world can say he is the best in the market. U may ask where i from- check it " Aloca" in Kl , and u will know. This company origin is from australia, but had seen delisted. We took over as there is a on going project . Built a hotel and service apartment. Hotel sold to our Kl partner, and sold the apartments to the markets. And total investment for my group comes to 120 m. So isolator, maybe u can check it up.
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Hawkeye Veteran	06-May-2011 23:08        Hawkeye About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You are not " Very Poor" to have money to play stock. " Very Poor" are those who can not even afford to have 2 meals a day. If we make money from the stock market and prepare to make more so that we can give some to those who NEED the money. warrenbegger      ( Date: 06-May-2011 22:57) Posted: I very poor, that why i support another side :)
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warrenbegger Elite	06-May-2011 22:57        warrenbegger About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood: Yells: "Anyhow Buy Anyhow Die ^_^"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I very poor, that why i support another side :)
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Peg_li Master	06-May-2011 22:56        Peg_li About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	you are really a rich guy. I think here most of us is not same class as you. most of forumers here still struggle for making small money from stock market. you play stock, just for fun at least now.   capland      ( Date: 06-May-2011 22:39) Posted: u pay for value.  , from the day when cpl set up. My group has been playing with it. I still remember when it drops to 0.99 in 2002 . My group bought up to 3million shares. And we sell off at 5.00 in 2006-7. imagine 3 miilion dollars increased to mere 15million. I don believe it , but it just happened. When this share run, noone could chase. When it drops to 2.20, my groups graps again. Me alone already had 200++ lots. The others had accumulated @ 500-600 lots. Believed it or not. what i say is fact. among the property stocks, cpl had been depreciate too much compared to its peer. So, to me, any price to entry depend on yr tolerance. Short term trading is based on market forces, and long term holdings depend on cost averages. I believe in cash flow positive- so will not go under (CPL is one of them) . Those in business understd what i mean. Like myself and my group, we made money, lots of it, but we spent wisely. Invest heavily in stocks and oversea properties, and also recently bought a copper mine in Indonesia , together with the indo-chinese. So, when the bl**dy fool talk about " real monies" , i don know is there any " fake" monies? A few thousands or even tens of thousand can make u so sure that u are a " genius" in the market. As far as i know, no one in this world can say he is the best in the market. U may ask where i from- check it " Aloca" in Kl , and u will know. This company origin is from australia, but had seen delisted. We took over as there is a on going project . Built a hotel and service apartment. Hotel sold to our Kl partner, and sold the apartments to the markets. And total investment for my group comes to 120 m. So isolator, maybe u can check it up. Peg_li      ( Date: 06-May-2011 22:02) Posted: 3 days, lose 200k, oh my god. you are too rich. at least millionare. admire you. I think you play stock, just for fun
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capland Veteran	06-May-2011 22:39        capland About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	u pay for value.  , from the day when cpl set up. My group has been playing with it. I still remember when it drops to 0.99 in 2002 . My group bought up to 3million shares. And we sell off at 5.00 in 2006-7. imagine 3 miilion dollars increased to mere 15million. I don believe it , but it just happened. When this share run, noone could chase. When it drops to 2.20, my groups graps again. Me alone already had 200++ lots. The others had accumulated @ 500-600 lots. Believed it or not. what i say is fact. among the property stocks, cpl had been depreciate too much compared to its peer. So, to me, any price to entry depend on yr tolerance. Short term trading is based on market forces, and long term holdings depend on cost averages. I believe in cash flow positive- so will not go under (CPL is one of them) . Those in business understd what i mean. Like myself and my group, we made money, lots of it, but we spent wisely. Invest heavily in stocks and oversea properties, and also recently bought a copper mine in Indonesia , together with the indo-chinese. So, when the bl**dy fool talk about " real monies" , i don know is there any " fake" monies? A few thousands or even tens of thousand can make u so sure that u are a " genius" in the market. As far as i know, no one in this world can say he is the best in the market. U may ask where i from- check it " Aloca" in Kl , and u will know. This company origin is from australia, but had seen delisted. We took over as there is a on going project . Built a hotel and service apartment. Hotel sold to our Kl partner, and sold the apartments to the markets. And total investment for my group comes to 120 m. So isolator, maybe u can check it up. Peg_li      ( Date: 06-May-2011 22:02) Posted: 3 days, lose 200k, oh my god. you are too rich. at least millionare. admire you. I think you play stock, just for fun. capland      ( Date: 06-May-2011 14:40) Posted: FOOL LIKE U LIKE TO SEE REAL MONEY> we never see real money- we see figures only, in the bank. 7 figures, how to count man. So put into the bank better. Somemore, i busy , deciding where to go holiday next month , using the cpl and kepland dividend. just spent the F& N on a good watch . Alama, u seem happy with a little profit. I teach u - go casino, try 20,000 in 1 bet. Then u will get the feel when they pay u another 20,000....This feelings will be good. I tried before. Very shiok. I also lose 200k in just 3 days. So just be humble. No matter how smart u are, there will be someone higher than u.... U are comparing a millsand to a stone....
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Peg_li Master	06-May-2011 22:02        Peg_li About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	3 days, lose 200k, oh my god. you are too rich. at least millionare. admire you. I think you play stock, just for fun. capland      ( Date: 06-May-2011 14:40) Posted: FOOL LIKE U LIKE TO SEE REAL MONEY> we never see real money- we see figures only, in the bank. 7 figures, how to count man. So put into the bank better. Somemore, i busy , deciding where to go holiday next month , using the cpl and kepland dividend. just spent the F& N on a good watch . Alama, u seem happy with a little profit. I teach u - go casino, try 20,000 in 1 bet. Then u will get the feel when they pay u another 20,000....This feelings will be good. I tried before. Very shiok. I also lose 200k in just 3 days. So just be humble. No matter how smart u are, there will be someone higher than u.... U are comparing a millsand to a stone..... capland      ( Date: 06-May-2011 14:28) Posted: tcss> > > > > > yr real money is just a slice compare to others ....lol....but try harder, make a million and welcome to my club...value club..
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Hawkeye Veteran	06-May-2011 21:22        Hawkeye About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Capitaland is not a good trading stock. Its too expensive to be a good trading stock. Any stock with transaction of 10K to 20K of share diff price of 1 cents difference to breakeven, is a good trading stock. For share of a price of 1 cents diff transacted with direct buying or sell share price had to move at least 3 cents. Not easy right? BB do not allow you to earn that easy. Stock with price of 1.45 or less. Riskless      ( Date: 06-May-2011 17:28) Posted: 2.8 is a good omen! Let's wait... alexchia01      ( Date: 06-May-2011 16:11) Posted: You two guys are confusing everyone. Capitaland is a good company, but now is Not the time to Buy. Capitaland should goes down some more. This is just half way down from the last high of $3.50. My target to cover my short position is $3.10. But if it continues this downtrend, it can goes all the way to $2.80. After it reaches the bottom and starting to climb, that's the best time to Buy. For me, I would like to see it breaks out of its downtrend channel before I would consider accumulating for long term. For now, Capitaland is just a trading stock to me.
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Riskless Member	06-May-2011 17:28        Riskless About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Let's Wait"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	2.8 is a good omen! Let's wait... alexchia01      ( Date: 06-May-2011 16:11) Posted: You two guys are confusing everyone. Capitaland is a good company, but now is Not the time to Buy. Capitaland should goes down some more. This is just half way down from the last high of $3.50. My target to cover my short position is $3.10. But if it continues this downtrend, it can goes all the way to $2.80. After it reaches the bottom and starting to climb, that's the best time to Buy. For me, I would like to see it breaks out of its downtrend channel before I would consider accumulating for long term. For now, Capitaland is just a trading stock to me.
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