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STI to cross 3000 boosted by long-term investors
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iPunter
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20-Aug-2011 19:09
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Lol...  there's no such thing as " will" or " no this, or no that" .   The best anyone can do is to let the market itself do the talking.         If we predict to others, then if we are wrong, then there will be a stigma...  ![]()
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JUNWEI9756
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20-Aug-2011 18:42
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STI will hit 2550 and then rebound strongly. No recession. | ||||
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vonntan
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20-Aug-2011 17:15
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On the technical charts, the STI is showing signs of weakening as it tested its support. The huge gap ahead will act as a strong layer of resistence for the STI to overcome. http://sgsharemarket.com/home/2011/08/sti-overview-for-22082011-to-26082011/   |
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andreytan
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20-Aug-2011 16:33
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For those who bought good counter , need not worry, don't see the px day to day, afterall, you say u are a long term invester.so if the px go down further just buy more and keep. remember your px is not next day, next month or next year,...your px is 20 years from now...look at the price only 20 years from now.  buy when there are big drop. Let those panic go and realised their loss.  for if there were no losses, where come gain?? you will be the one to gain.  |
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rpires
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20-Aug-2011 16:33
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if you wana buy on dip provided you know this is short term correction. If you think the market is going down further, why would you want to start accumlate now? why not start accumlate when you believe the market is recovering and more good news is churning out. some indicators you need to take note when buying stocks are such as USA currency, gold prices, treasury yields. this will provide some kind of indicators where the market is possible heading, although not 100% but at least you are buying with some info about where the wind is blowing and not sail against the wind. personally  i think the EU banks are stress. USA growth has slow to almost stagnant and possibly recession early next year. Fed rates is almost zero, besides QE3, fed is running out of ammo to save the next recession. And also do note USA debts. put that together, this coming crisis, might not be as great as Lehman shock, but it aint small either. the good side is USA corporate profits are very good such as apple, google, catepillar, facebook and etc. however some tech are struggling such as HP, dell, RIM.   |
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andreytan
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20-Aug-2011 16:24
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Those who have been holding and telling people not to panic are the real idiots here. Panic is the appropriate response when the global economy is collapsing. Take your money out of the market now before you lose even more. The buy and hold strategy will lead only to big losses. Guaranteed in these times.  *Sigh*   I hate reading posts like these.  You DO realize that you don't lose a thing unless you SELL at a price lower than which you BUY, right?  Say I purchased 10 lots SIA last week.  Lo and Behold, my shares have dropped $1 in value.  I haven't LOST anything (look up unrealized gain/loss and learn something) until I SELL the shares.  Meanwhile, SIA is paying me a 6% per share dividend, helping me to beat inflation.  WHY would I want to sell?   The DOW and STI aren't going to drop to 0, and Blue Chip companies are not going out of business any time soon.  Phase in purchase of high dividend yielding blue chips companies while the market is dropping.  Cash in on the eventual market upswing (it WILL happen) and enjoy the returns via dividends until your stocks come back.   This isn't quantum mechanics.  Would you rather have a guaranteed 6% return and possibly encounter some temporary  UNREALIZED  losses, or would you rather sell and  have actual losses while losing ground to inflation via money market or CD? |
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andreytan
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20-Aug-2011 16:06
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andreytan
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20-Aug-2011 15:58
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  Hey the game is called investing and the rules are buy good sound stocks low and then sell them when their  price goes above  a reasonable  good value    Buying really low requires going against the herd fear and selling at a reasonable price requires going against head greed.  Holding them is made easy if they pay dividends of 3-6%.  
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andreytan
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20-Aug-2011 15:54
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      “Bull markets are born on pessimism, grown on skepticism, mature on optimism and die on euphoria. The time of maximum pessimism is the best time to buy, and the time of maximum optimism is the best time to sell.” – Sir John Templeton This is a great quote!  Even Warren Buffett says that you have to swim against the current most times to make money in the market.  Our goal in life and investing is to buy low and sell high.  The stock market follows the herd mentality.  Even many mutual fund managers have been accused of following the crowd too.  When people are down on the market as a whole, it is usually the best time to buy stocks.  And, like Templeton says in the quote above, the height of the frenzy and optimism is your selling cue. |
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bishan22
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20-Aug-2011 15:30
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NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- European leaders are under intense pressure to come up with a long-term solution to the debt problems straining the European Union to its breaking point. But given the enormous challenges involved and the unpalatable options available to them, few analysts expect EU policymakers to announce any meaningful changes soon. " There is no solution to the Euroland's sovereign debt crisis in sight," said Carl Weinberg, an economist at High Frequency Economics. " Markets will continue to be fundamentally unstable and volatile as long as we can think." |
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iPunter
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20-Aug-2011 11:57
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It may be sooner than that...              or it may not happen ...                     no one can predict history...                             But no one can stop anyone from betting... lol... ![]()
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EdwardLiu
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20-Aug-2011 11:05
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Analysts $21 billion wiped off Singapore market - but observers say stocks could fall another 20-30% before hitting bottom By VEN SREENIVASAN (Singapore) THE bloodletting which wiped some $21 billion off the Singapore market yesterday could be the beginning of a selldown which could lop another 30 per cent off the value of stocks here. That seems to be the view of some analysts and strategists following a rampage which dragged the Straits Times Index (STI) down 3.2 per cent or 91.33 points to 2,733.63 points yesterday - its lowest in 15 months. 'What we are seeing is a perfect storm - a confluence of negative factors,' said Prabodh Agrawal, CEO of Singapore-based IIFL Institutional Equities. |
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rotijai
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20-Aug-2011 05:14
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eh eh, i didnt say tat 1500 is the floor.. i  was just saying no point to wait it goes as cheap as 1500 i wont even buy at 600 if there is no sign of reversal
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medivh
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20-Aug-2011 01:47
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People are funny and like to make predictions  ...
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MasterNg9999
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20-Aug-2011 01:47
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Hahaha.. think i should have taken your advice .... lolx... 5.16 to 4.03 ... o.O ..... super scary..... think my karma enough liao ...can open my big mouth again .... now bear bear family all come out to play ..... becos bull on super steroid tahaning 10.8 tons of downward pressure... more data coming in that dont look too good ...suspect QE3 is in stealth mode ..... Ah Ben may be using created money to learn BOA more money..... hahhaah......   Did Someone Just Leak QE3? USDJPY Plunges To Fresh All Time Low 75.95, Stocks SoarYen surges, USDJPY plunges to a new record low of 75.97 (yes, YNoda is looking, looking, looking although better word is panicking, panicking, panicking), and the ES soared promptly. So... did someone finally leak it? Does the market still not get that it has to be lower the day of Jackson Hole for QE3 to work? Frontrunning any QE3 announcement merely makes it redundant. Bernanke needs stocks around 1000 on August 26, not higher. In the meantime, buy that Sony flat screen today. At this rate of Yen appreciation, the company may not exist in a few months. USDJPY near all time record low ![]() And ES kneejerk: ![]() http://www.zerohedge.com/news/did-someone-just-leak-qe3-usdjpy-plunges-fresh-all-time-low-7595-stocks-soar ECB Getting Angry That People Can See Right Through Central Bank LiesToday's hilarious commentary comes from the ECB's own Jurgen Stark, whose blood pressure has obviously peaked and at this point it is just a matter of the realization that ECB (and other Central bank lies) no longer work filtering through to reality.
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If we were betting men and women, we would say this is the ECB capitulating. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/ecb-getting-angry-people-can-see-right-through-central-bank-lies http://diepresse.com/home/wirtschaft/international/686822/EZBDirektor-Stark_Wir-sind-doch-keine-Hasardeure?_vl_backlink=/home/index.do if you can read german... Hahah too tired now ....anyhow repost ...kekeke ... just waiting for Ah Ben to get drunk and announce that its QE5 !!!! Cheer  
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andreytan
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20-Aug-2011 00:44
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I think we will see a major war outbreak within the next 5 to 10 yrs. the last 2WW  was fought because of economic matter blow big, |
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andreytan
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19-Aug-2011 23:59
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What if 1500 is not the floor, the floor is at the basement of 600???and you buy all one shoot, then panic and get out. at 1500 the px will be very big move.  why 1500???can share.  
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JUNWEI9756
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19-Aug-2011 23:26
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True !!!!!!! WELL SAID sifu !!! I think i will just keep the cash in my pocket, safest... Wait for any confirmations then load it up, never too late !!!
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louis001
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19-Aug-2011 23:19
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Nobody knows who/country/BBs   will say or do what in the next few months...it appears that they are rubbing salt into the wounds.....market players are going to play by ears   on what kind of story lines or news going to come out...look at how M.S. guys chose theirs wording....who knows their gangs are behind some of the swings...trade with caution.. (Bloomberg 19/8)....Stocks tumbled yesterday after Morgan Stanley said the U.S. and  Europe  are “dangerously close to recession.” The New York- based bank reduced its forecast for global gross domestic product growth in 2011 to 3.9 percent from 4.2 percent. The S& P 500 slumped 4.5 percent, and the  Dow Jones Industrial Average  posted its fourth loss in August exceeding 400 points. |
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rotijai
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19-Aug-2011 23:18
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take a look at 2008 crisis and 2010 correction and compare the 2.. and take ur bets if u believe tat it's just like 2010 correction, u can place ur bets now.. if u believe tat it's 2008 crisis, u can wait (by betting) until it bottoms.. i believe tat this is something similar to 2008, tat's y i dont intend to long anything.. if i am wrong, i dont lose anything (only lose the winning and prob got the chance to short at juicy peaks weeks later) if i am right, i will have all my cash in the piggy bank waiting to make a killing when STI goes as cheap as 1500 :D
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