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I would agree with you on going short starting on next week after the US labour day.

My view is that we will be making new lows with some bounces along the way.

This should last up to the end of November.

And over the Christmas holidays season and end of the year window dressing, we could have a significant bounce.

December is mostly bullish month.

September & October are mostly bearish month.

My target new lows will be 970-980 on the S& P500 and 2200-2250 on the STI.

stockmarketmind ( Date: 02-Sep-2011 09:11) Posted:

I think short term can make money on the short side.

http://stockmarketmindgames.blogspot.com/2011/09/sti-short-or-long.html

louis001 ( Date: 02-Sep-2011 09:05) Posted:

Buy on dips.....

(AP/Washington 1/9)A stream of data released Thursday bolstered the case for an economy that's healthier than it seemed just weeks ago:

-- Americans kept shopping in August despite higher prices and a hurricane that battered the East Coast during the important back-to-school shopping season.

-- Car buyers lifted U.S. sales last month for most automakers. Analysts had expected a weaker August because of anxiety about the economy and Hurricane Irene, which forced many dealers to close during the month's final weekend.

-- Fewer people applied for unemployment benefits last week, a sign that the job market may be improving slightly.

-- Manufacturing managed to expand in August for the 25th straight month. Last month's growth, though modest, defied fears that manufacturing, one of the economy's few sources of strength, had contracted last month.

All that delivered a sense of relief that the economy is still expanding -- even if it's not enough to reduce unemployment, raise wages and drive the housing market out of its depression.

" Today's releases add to the evidence that underlying economic conditions aren't half as bad as feared a few weeks ago," said Paul Ashworth, an economist at Capital Economics........

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I think short term can make money on the short side.

http://stockmarketmindgames.blogspot.com/2011/09/sti-short-or-long.html

louis001 ( Date: 02-Sep-2011 09:05) Posted:

Buy on dips.....

(AP/Washington 1/9)A stream of data released Thursday bolstered the case for an economy that's healthier than it seemed just weeks ago:

-- Americans kept shopping in August despite higher prices and a hurricane that battered the East Coast during the important back-to-school shopping season.

-- Fewer people applied for unemployment benefits last week, a sign that the job market may be improving slightly.

All that delivered a sense of relief that the economy is still expanding -- even if it's not enough to reduce unemployment, raise wages and drive the housing market out of its depression.

" Today's releases add to the evidence that underlying economic conditions aren't half as bad as feared a few weeks ago," said Paul Ashworth, an economist at Capital Economics........

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Buy on dips.....

(AP/Washington 1/9)A stream of data released Thursday bolstered the case for an economy that's healthier than it seemed just weeks ago:

-- Americans kept shopping in August despite higher prices and a hurricane that battered the East Coast during the important back-to-school shopping season.

-- Fewer people applied for unemployment benefits last week, a sign that the job market may be improving slightly.

All that delivered a sense of relief that the economy is still expanding -- even if it's not enough to reduce unemployment, raise wages and drive the housing market out of its depression.

" Today's releases add to the evidence that underlying economic conditions aren't half as bad as feared a few weeks ago," said Paul Ashworth, an economist at Capital Economics........

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02-Sep-2011 05:52

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master gaecia.. u know wat i was thinking just now when i was undecided whether to cut or not? :)

anyway.. dow dropped 3 digits.. looks like we are about to win the bet.. (hopefully) :D

Gaecia ( Date: 02-Sep-2011 00:56) Posted:

i give u more of this again,

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alexchia01 ( Date: 02-Sep-2011 00:26) Posted:

You really has a lot of time to cut and post articles from online news.

I only read them for fun, I don't use them to determine my trades tomorrow.

I only believe in one thing, and that's the charts.

You can find millions of articles to reason why market is bad.

I can also find millions of articles to reason why market is good.

The fact is... only the BBs can move the market and that's what I'm interested in.

Today, I just don't see any real panic selling that signal market is going for a major drop soon.

All I see, is retail players taking profit in the morning and BBs created a false panic in the afternoon to Buy Up a lower price.

I think there are still more upside coming.

Don't get me wrong, I do believe that market is going into a recession and we could be at the verge of a bear market.

I just don't think it's going to happen tomorrow.

Most likely to happen in October

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i give u more of this again,

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alexchia01 ( Date: 02-Sep-2011 00:26) Posted:

MasterNg9999 ( Date: 01-Sep-2011 23:51) Posted:

Hahahaha

and make that into a serial killer + soap opera + prison breaking and most of all superhumans with incredible power ......

long time no see Master Beggar ... where have you been?? ....... must tell me if you are planning a escape route .... i be your master lackey ... lolx

@alexchia01 ....

must look up and down too ...... i give you 25 reasons to look elsewhere

The following are 25 signs that the financial world is about to hit the big red panic button....

#1 According to a new study just released by Merrill Lynch, the U.S. economy has an 80% chance of going into another recession.

#2 Will Bank of America be the next Lehman Brothers? Shares of Bank of America have fallen more than 40% over the past couple of months. Even though Warren Buffet recently stepped in with 5 billion dollars, the reality is that the problems for Bank of America are far from over. In fact, one analyst is projecting that Bank of America is going to need to raise 40 or 50 billion dollars in new capital.

#3 European bank stocks have gotten absolutely hammered in recent weeks.

#4 So far, major international banks have announced layoffs of more than 60,000 workers, and more layoff announcements are expected this fall. A recent article in the New York Times detailed some of the carnage....

A new wave of layoffs is emblematic of this shift as nearly every major bank undertakes a cost-cutting initiative, some with names like Project Compass. UBS has announced 3,500 layoffs, 5 percent of its staff, and Citigroup is quietly cutting dozens of traders. Bank of America could cut as many as 10,000 jobs, or 3.5 percent of its work force. ABN Amro, Barclays, Bank of New York Mellon, Credit Suisse, Goldman Sachs, HSBC, Lloyds, State Street and Wells Fargo have in recent months all announced plans to cut jobs — tens of thousands all told.

#5 Credit markets are really drying up. Do you remember what happened in 2008 when that happened? Many are now warning that we are getting very close to a repeat of that.

#6 The Conference Board has announced that the U.S. Consumer Confidence Index fell from 59.2 in July to 44.5 in August. That is the lowest reading that we have seen since the last recession ended.

#7 The University of Michigan Consumer Sentiment Index has fallen by almost 20 points over the last three months. This index is now the lowest it has been in 30 years.

#8 The Philadelphia Fed's latest survey of regional manufacturing activity was absolutely nightmarish....

The survey’s broadest measure of manufacturing conditions, the diffusion index of current activity, decreased from a slightly positive reading of 3.2 in July to -30.7 in August. The index is now at its lowest level since March 2009

#9 According to Bloomberg, since World War II almost every time that the year over year change in real GDP has fallen below 2% the U.S. economy has fallen into a recession....

Since 1948, every time the four-quarter change has fallen below 2 percent, the economy has entered a recession. It’s hard to argue against an indicator with such a long history of accuracy.

#10 Economic sentiment is falling in Europe as well. The following is from a recent Reuters article....

A monthly European Commission survey showed economic sentiment in the 17 countries using the euro, a good indication of future economic activity, fell to 98.3 in August from a revised 103 in July with optimism declining in all sectors.

#11 The yield on 2 year Greek bonds is now an astronomical 42.47%.

#12 As I wrote about recently, the European Central Bank has stepped into the marketplace and is buying up huge amounts of sovereign debt from troubled nations such as Greece, Portugal, Spain and Italy. As a result, the ECB is also massively overleveraged at this point.

#13 Most of the major banks in Europe are also leveraged to the hilt and have tremendous exposure to European sovereign debt.

#14 Political wrangling in Europe is threatening to unravel the Greek bailout package. In a recent article, Satyajit Das described what has been going on behind the scenes in the EU....

The sticking point is a demand for collateral for the second bailout package. Finland demanded and got Euro 500 million in cash as security against their Euro 1,400 million share of the second bailout package. Hearing of the ill-advised side deal between Greece and Finland, Austria, the Netherlands and Slovakia also are now demanding collateral, arguing that their banks were less exposed to Greece than their counterparts in Germany and France entitling them to special treatment. At least, one German parliamentarian has also asked the logical question, why Germany is not receiving similar collateral.

#15 German Chancellor Angela Merkel is trying to hold the Greek bailout deal together, but a wave of anti-bailout " hysteria" is sweeping Germany, and now according to Ambrose Evans-Pritchard it looks like Merkel may not have enough votes to approve the latest bailout package....

German media reported that the latest tally of votes in the Bundestag shows that 23 members from Mrs Merkel's own coalition plan to vote against the package, including twelve of the 44 members of Bavaria's Social Christians (CSU). This may force the Chancellor to rely on opposition votes, risking a government collapse.

#16 Polish finance minister Jacek Rostowski is warning that the status quo in Europe will lead to " collapse" . According to Rostowski, if the EU does not choose the path of much deeper economic integration the eurozone simply is not going to survive much longer....

" The choice is: much deeper macroeconomic integration in the eurozone or its collapse. There is no third way."

#17 German voters are against the introduction of " Eurobonds" by about a 5 to 1 margin, so deeper economic integration in Europe does not look real promising at this point.

#18 If something goes wrong with the Greek bailout, Greece is financially doomed. Just consider the following excerpt from a recent article by Puru Saxena....

In Greece, government debt now represents almost 160% of GDP and the average yield on Greek debt is around 15%. Thus, if Greece’s debt is rolled over without restructuring, its interest costs alone will amount to approximately 24% of GDP. In other words, if debt pardoning does not occur, nearly a quarter of Greece’s economic output will be gobbled up by interest repayments!

#19 The global banking system has a total of 2 trillion dollars of exposure to Greek, Irish, Portuguese, Spanish and Italian debt. Considering how much the global banking system is leveraged, this amount of exposure could end up wiping out a lot of major financial institutions.

#20 The head of the IMF, Christine Largarde, recently warned that European banks are in need of " urgent recapitalization" .

#21 Once the European crisis unravels, things could move very rapidly downhill. In a recent article, John Mauldin put it this way....

It is only a matter of time until Europe has a true crisis, which will happen faster – BANG! – than any of us can now imagine. Think Lehman on steroids. The U.S. gave Europe our subprime woes. Europe gets to repay the favor with an even more severe banking crisis that, given that the U.S. is at best at stall speed, will tip us into a long and serious recession. Stay tuned.

#22 The U.S. housing market is still a complete and total mess. According to a recently released report, U.S. home prices fell 5.9% in the second quarter compared to a year earlier. That was the biggest decline that we have seen since 2009. But even with lower prices very few people are buying. According to the National Association of Realtors, sales of previously owned homes dropped 3.5 percent during July. That was the third decline in the last four months. Sales of previously owned homes are even lagging behind last year's pathetic pace.

#23 According to John Lohman, the decline in U.S. economic data over the past three months has been absolutely unprecedented.

#24 Morgan Stanley now says that the U.S. and Europe are " hovering dangerously close to a recession" and that there is a good chance we could enter one at some point in the next 6 to 12 months.

#25 Minneapolis Fed President Narayana Kocherlakota says that he is so alarmed about the state of the economy that he may drop his opposition to more monetary easing. Could more quantitative easing by the Federal Reserve soon be on the way?

Things have not looked this bad for global financial markets since 2008. Unless someone rides in on a white horse with trillions of dollars (or euros) of easy credit, it looks like we are headed for a massive credit crunch.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/25-signs-that-the-financial-world-is-about-to-hit-the-big-red-panic-button

I be at the end of the road waiting for all .... take care ....

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Will be too late if act only panic selling....

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02-Sep-2011 00:27

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hm.. reminds me of STI this morning..

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MasterNg9999 ( Date: 01-Sep-2011 23:51) Posted:

A new wave of layoffs is emblematic of this shift as nearly every major bank undertakes a cost-cutting initiative, some with names like Project Compass. UBS has announced 3,500 layoffs, 5 percent of its staff, and Citigroup is quietly cutting dozens of traders. Bank of America could cut as many as 10,000 jobs, or 3.5 percent of its work force. ABN Amro, Barclays, Bank of New York Mellon, Credit Suisse, Goldman Sachs, HSBC, Lloyds, State Street and Wells Fargo have in recent months all announced plans to cut jobs — tens of thousands all told.

The survey’s broadest measure of manufacturing conditions, the diffusion index of current activity, decreased from a slightly positive reading of 3.2 in July to -30.7 in August. The index is now at its lowest level since March 2009

#9 According to Bloomberg, since World War II almost every time that the year over year change in real GDP has fallen below 2% the U.S. economy has fallen into a recession....

Since 1948, every time the four-quarter change has fallen below 2 percent, the economy has entered a recession. It’s hard to argue against an indicator with such a long history of accuracy.

#10 Economic sentiment is falling in Europe as well. The following is from a recent Reuters article....

A monthly European Commission survey showed economic sentiment in the 17 countries using the euro, a good indication of future economic activity, fell to 98.3 in August from a revised 103 in July with optimism declining in all sectors.

The sticking point is a demand for collateral for the second bailout package. Finland demanded and got Euro 500 million in cash as security against their Euro 1,400 million share of the second bailout package. Hearing of the ill-advised side deal between Greece and Finland, Austria, the Netherlands and Slovakia also are now demanding collateral, arguing that their banks were less exposed to Greece than their counterparts in Germany and France entitling them to special treatment. At least, one German parliamentarian has also asked the logical question, why Germany is not receiving similar collateral.

German media reported that the latest tally of votes in the Bundestag shows that 23 members from Mrs Merkel's own coalition plan to vote against the package, including twelve of the 44 members of Bavaria's Social Christians (CSU). This may force the Chancellor to rely on opposition votes, risking a government collapse.

" The choice is: much deeper macroeconomic integration in the eurozone or its collapse. There is no third way."

In Greece, government debt now represents almost 160% of GDP and the average yield on Greek debt is around 15%. Thus, if Greece’s debt is rolled over without restructuring, its interest costs alone will amount to approximately 24% of GDP. In other words, if debt pardoning does not occur, nearly a quarter of Greece’s economic output will be gobbled up by interest repayments!

It is only a matter of time until Europe has a true crisis, which will happen faster – BANG! – than any of us can now imagine. Think Lehman on steroids. The U.S. gave Europe our subprime woes. Europe gets to repay the favor with an even more severe banking crisis that, given that the U.S. is at best at stall speed, will tip us into a long and serious recession. Stay tuned.

JUNWEI9756 ( Date: 01-Sep-2011 23:19) Posted:

If you can air it through channel 8, i sure give you big big ang pao :

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02-Sep-2011 00:11

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That is one struggle the DOW is having right now...

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@MasterNg88888888

Wa! U done so much homework ah, i too lazy to write until like this.

No matter what, U had done a great market information job here. U had done your goodwill part. Well done and cheers :)

I not going to escape anywhere, i can play any kind of siao market, even stock crash mode. Lets profit together, Lets wellcome them all :)

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A new wave of layoffs is emblematic of this shift as nearly every major bank undertakes a cost-cutting initiative, some with names like Project Compass. UBS has announced 3,500 layoffs, 5 percent of its staff, and Citigroup is quietly cutting dozens of traders. Bank of America could cut as many as 10,000 jobs, or 3.5 percent of its work force. ABN Amro, Barclays, Bank of New York Mellon, Credit Suisse, Goldman Sachs, HSBC, Lloyds, State Street and Wells Fargo have in recent months all announced plans to cut jobs — tens of thousands all told.

The survey’s broadest measure of manufacturing conditions, the diffusion index of current activity, decreased from a slightly positive reading of 3.2 in July to -30.7 in August. The index is now at its lowest level since March 2009

#9 According to Bloomberg, since World War II almost every time that the year over year change in real GDP has fallen below 2% the U.S. economy has fallen into a recession....

Since 1948, every time the four-quarter change has fallen below 2 percent, the economy has entered a recession. It’s hard to argue against an indicator with such a long history of accuracy.

#10 Economic sentiment is falling in Europe as well. The following is from a recent Reuters article....

A monthly European Commission survey showed economic sentiment in the 17 countries using the euro, a good indication of future economic activity, fell to 98.3 in August from a revised 103 in July with optimism declining in all sectors.

The sticking point is a demand for collateral for the second bailout package. Finland demanded and got Euro 500 million in cash as security against their Euro 1,400 million share of the second bailout package. Hearing of the ill-advised side deal between Greece and Finland, Austria, the Netherlands and Slovakia also are now demanding collateral, arguing that their banks were less exposed to Greece than their counterparts in Germany and France entitling them to special treatment. At least, one German parliamentarian has also asked the logical question, why Germany is not receiving similar collateral.

German media reported that the latest tally of votes in the Bundestag shows that 23 members from Mrs Merkel's own coalition plan to vote against the package, including twelve of the 44 members of Bavaria's Social Christians (CSU). This may force the Chancellor to rely on opposition votes, risking a government collapse.

" The choice is: much deeper macroeconomic integration in the eurozone or its collapse. There is no third way."

In Greece, government debt now represents almost 160% of GDP and the average yield on Greek debt is around 15%. Thus, if Greece’s debt is rolled over without restructuring, its interest costs alone will amount to approximately 24% of GDP. In other words, if debt pardoning does not occur, nearly a quarter of Greece’s economic output will be gobbled up by interest repayments!

It is only a matter of time until Europe has a true crisis, which will happen faster – BANG! – than any of us can now imagine. Think Lehman on steroids. The U.S. gave Europe our subprime woes. Europe gets to repay the favor with an even more severe banking crisis that, given that the U.S. is at best at stall speed, will tip us into a long and serious recession. Stay tuned.

JUNWEI9756 ( Date: 01-Sep-2011 23:19) Posted:

If you can air it through channel 8, i sure give you big big ang pao :D

warrenbegger ( Date: 01-Sep-2011 23:16) Posted:

U need me to announce their marriage???

I can make them love and en ai each other :)

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01-Sep-2011 23:44

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Dont had to wish for red or green.

Just dance and play along with the market.

I wellcome both very green(Long) and very red(short).

Cause i can only see grey(mix) during this times.

And grey is the combination of black(wrong) and white(right).

U must forget about red/green/black/white in order to see grey.

Understand market, and U will understand theres no right or wrong. Only chances, or luck(duck).

Only players playing among themself thinks they r playing the market and in the end market out play them.

Good luck all, i going to take my ah siao medicine liao, good night :)

warrenbegger ( Date: 30-Aug-2011 15:29) Posted:

I am a colour blind In my own world.

No matter green or red, I can only see grey :)

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i still think that there is chance for a 3 digit upwards today. haha.

rotijai ( Date: 01-Sep-2011 23:41) Posted:

seems like the bulls still got some strength..

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seems like the bulls still got some strength..

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yea i was so worry for u.. especially we shorted noble at 143? it went up as high as 169 today..

hehe.. last friday it looked well supported.. i was already VERY worry.. and with ben's delaying QE3 talk and the market still rallied 100+ pts.. i decided to cut all and went for long instead..

made quite good $ there.. and now i am back to the bears :)

Gaecia ( Date: 01-Sep-2011 23:22) Posted:

Roti, the past few days of rallying has been quite a stretch it looked as if some/ most counters were in a haste to rally for mth end window dressing. I nearly passed out from holding a position.serious. Had to avg out my shorts from abv 1.6x to level things out.

rotijai ( Date: 01-Sep-2011 23:05) Posted:

i was actually expecting it to touch 12k (dow) and 1250 (s& p)..

but it looks like the bulls are exhausted at 17k(dow) and 1230(s& p)..

as for STI, i thought it will at least test 2910-2920.. twice.. (it hit once this morning and i thought it would retest again, at least, to confirm a breakout or failed attempt)..

didnt expect the bears were so powerful.. n our master risktaker lost the fight :|

anyway i cleared my longs and jumped to shorts at 3+ when i saw euro dropping.

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Gaecia ( Date: 01-Sep-2011 22:49) Posted:

Roti, Dow should be topping out near term. You can screen thru a few of Dow's component stocks & tell that most are seeing a top formation. I will consider shorting wynn resorts later in the night for candle affirmation. Also need to see whether i've sufficient reserves on cfd to hold it couple days or not, cos the margin is 20% and frankly US stocks are still darn expensive imo even after the cliff crash. Didn't shed that much at all, just look at Aapl you'll know

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nope master gaecia..

i have enough of trading on day time nowadays...

u should have picked up quite a few juicy peaks on STI today uh ? :P

i only picked up those less juicy ones.. but i believe those should be juicy enough in the mid term..

Gaecia ( Date: 01-Sep-2011 23:12) Posted:

You want to s US stocks? There are many expensive juicy tops still at the peak. :D

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Newbies play index or forex can die jialat jialat lah.. Better not encourage. So scary!

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If you can air it through channel 8, i sure give you big big ang pao :D

warrenbegger ( Date: 01-Sep-2011 23:16) Posted:

U need me to announce their marriage???

I can make them love and en ai each other :)

alexchia01 ( Date: 01-Sep-2011 16:09) Posted:

You two are really like husband and wife.

One sing and the other dance... lol

Some more play until like real.

Please lah... I left see, right see also see no major drop.

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Trade Index is the better.... invest stock ok....

Anyway, my bonus short already earned my family a holiday trip to europe.... Opportunity dont come always, once come grab greedily ..... lol

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