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rotijai
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20-Sep-2011 15:34     
 
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 Alert Admin 		hammer hard? u mean push the price down for me to buy ? :P

risktaker      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 15:32) Posted:

Aiya u buy never tell me then I hammer hard ma :)

rotijai      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 15:26) Posted:

uh.. the market is celebrating for italy downgrade ! woohoo
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risktaker
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20-Sep-2011 15:32     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Aiya u buy never tell me then I hammer hard ma :)

rotijai      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 15:26) Posted:

uh.. the market is celebrating for italy downgrade ! woohoo
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rotijai
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20-Sep-2011 15:26     
 
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 Alert Admin 		uh.. the market is celebrating for italy downgrade ! woohoo
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stoheart72
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20-Sep-2011 14:58     
 
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 Alert Admin 		As much as I wish that you are right, operation twist was being discussed before and its said that its not a 100% surefire solution. If the plan goes right, the market will bull, but if the plan went wrong, there will be massive selloff in risky counters. Aside from operation twist, I dont think they will proceed with original QE3, as mentioned by many, its not a long term solution. No offence, there is no such thing as 100% chance that they will do something right, politicians are humans afterall. I understand your eagerness, but misleading other traders with unfound confidence is not really encouraged. Nonetheless, we hope you are right, lets see what happen after the speech. Good luck all.

risktaker      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 14:35) Posted:

No. It's not hope. It's 100% chance that will do something :)

SGG_SGG      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:52) Posted:

I wonder how many out there really are hoping for stimuli in the form of QE3, or along those lines. It is unsustainable and artificial, as already seen. And the problems will come back to haunt us not much further down the road.
Then again.. this reasoning may be irrelevant.
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tiancai007
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20-Sep-2011 14:55     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Everybody, let's pump STI up...
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xing78
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20-Sep-2011 14:39     
 
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As traders, we are only really interested to know whether prices is likely to go up or down today, tomorrow, next week or next month.

Don't worry too much on what is going to happen few years down the road.

Leave that to the smart politicians.

LOL 

SGG_SGG      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:52) Posted:

I wonder how many out there really are hoping for stimuli in the form of QE3, or along those lines. It is unsustainable and artificial, as already seen. And the problems will come back to haunt us not much further down the road.
Then again.. this reasoning may be irrelevant.


tiancai007      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:47) Posted:

I think will cheong in the afternoon on expectations of stimulus package. Mkt always move up whenever there is Fed meeting.  


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risktaker
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20-Sep-2011 14:35     
 
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 Alert Admin 		No. It's not hope. It's 100% chance that will do something :)

SGG_SGG      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:52) Posted:

I wonder how many out there really are hoping for stimuli in the form of QE3, or along those lines. It is unsustainable and artificial, as already seen. And the problems will come back to haunt us not much further down the road.
Then again.. this reasoning may be irrelevant.


tiancai007      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:47) Posted:

I think will cheong in the afternoon on expectations of stimulus package. Mkt always move up whenever there is Fed meeting.  


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xing78
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20-Sep-2011 14:34     
 
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STI is in consolidation right now. 

Get ready to place your bet.

LOL 

 

tiancai007      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 14:22) Posted:

Come on STI! I will pump you to heaven!!! 

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tiancai007
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20-Sep-2011 14:22     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Come on STI! I will pump you to heaven!!! 
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MasterNg9999
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20-Sep-2011 14:20     
 
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CHINA VS FRANCE and maybe US as well....

China Pulls The Rug From Under Europe, Halts French Bank Transactions, Makes Good On Trade War Ultimatum



A flurry of headlines out of China suggest global macro-economic volatility may be ready to take it to the next level. We discussed last week how China's oh-so-generous offer of help to Europe was merely a veiled threat playing US against Europe in a game of who-gets-the-funding. Well, tonight, it seems, they are making good on some of those threats. Aggravated by EU's lack of market economy recognition, they pull trading lines with French banks, express concern at the EUR's safety (preferring US Treasuries), and indicate a clear preference for bonds over stocks - all the while warning of growing trade tensions - consider the sabre-rattled.

Initial comments from Commerce Minister Shen via Bloomberg:


*CHINA DISAPPOINTED EU HASN'T RECOGNIZED MARKET ECONOMY STATUS

*CHINA MARKET ECONOMY STATUS IS POLITICAL DECISION, SHEN SAYS

*CHINA MARKET ECONOMY STATUS NOT TECHNICAL ISSUE, SHEN SAYS

*CHINA'S HELP TO EUROPE, MARKET STATUS HAVE NO DIRECT CONNECTION


was quickly followed by the 'threat/promise':


*MOFCOM'S SHEN: EU DEBT CRISIS MAY RAISE CHINA TRADE FRICTION

*CHINA MOFCOM IS CONDUCTING REVIEW OF NESTLE-HSU FU CHI DEAL


and then Reuters reports:


A big market-making state bank in China's onshore foreign exchange market has stopped foreign exchange forwards and swaps trading with several European banks due to the unfolding debt crisis in Europe, two sources told Reuters on Tuesday.

 

The European banks include French lenders Societe Generale , Credit Agricole and BNP Paribas.

 

" Apart from spot trading, all swaps and forwards trading (with the European banks) have been stopped," one source who is familiar with the matter told Reuters.


  And the piece-de-resistance of the night was, again from Reuters:


China, the largest foreign holder of U.S. government debt, will keep buying U.S. Treasuries, the official People's Daily, the ruling Communist Party's mouthpiece reported on Tuesday, citing government researchers.

 

In an article about the reasons for China's increased purchase of U.S. Treasuries, the newspaper cited Yan Xiaona, a researcher with the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, as saying that the dollar " is relatively safer than the euro" because of the unfolding sovereign debt crisis in Europe.


Furthermore, as if he had just read our earlier debt vs equity post: 


Wang Chaocai, a Ministry of Finance researcher, was quoted as saying that " what else we can buy if not U.S. Treasuries? It's more risky to buy into equities."


Lastly, for feces and giggles, China Daily just had to throw in the military element with the tongue in cheeky " Backlash expected if US seals arms deal" ...

It seems that China did not get the answer they wanted from the Europeans and just as we said last week, swung back in favor of the US - TSYs as opposed to stocks. China 3 - Europe 0 - US 1 is the approximate score in this first round perhaps.

 

UPDATE: The 'game' continues into the night as China's Xinhua News cites absolutely noone when it claims Fitch's bearish stance on China's banking industry has prompted suspicions of a 'conspiracy'. And remember Fitch is French-owned.


With Europe perceiving Fitch as “purposely targeting” the region, the ratings company needs to find a new candidate to add to the “blacklist” to show its fairness, the report said, citing Wu Jingmei, head of Renmin University of China’s credit rating research center.


and then goes on to comment (via Bloomberg)


*U.S., EU SHOULD 'DITCH' PROTECTIONIST MEASURES: XINHUA

*U.S., EU SHOULD 'OPEN THEIR ARMS' TO CHINESE INVESTMENT: XINHUA


and a seemingly well-time rebuttal from Ambassador Locke:


*LOCKE SAYS CHINA BUSINESS CLIMATE CAUSING `GROWING FRUSTRATION'

*LOCKE SAYS CHINA POLICIES PLANTING `DOUBT' IN INVESTORS' MINDS

*LOCKE SAYS CHINA SHOULD LET CURRENCY APPRECIATE `MORE RAPIDLY'

*CHINA POLICY RAISES CONCERN IN FINANCIAL SERVICES SECTOR: LOCKE


We have lost score now but this rhetoric seems to be gaining pace...

HAHAHAHA...

maybe we all should buy into China Markets or Panda Bonds and not some lame S-Chip here ...

Cheer
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20-Sep-2011 13:52     
 
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 Alert Admin 		I wonder how many out there really are hoping for stimuli in the form of QE3, or along those lines. It is unsustainable and artificial, as already seen. And the problems will come back to haunt us not much further down the road.
Then again.. this reasoning may be irrelevant.


tiancai007      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:47) Posted:

I think will cheong in the afternoon on expectations of stimulus package. Mkt always move up whenever there is Fed meeting.  

Sgshares      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:04) Posted:

market looks weak to me today as well...just need second opinion. Thanks


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Sgshares
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20-Sep-2011 13:50     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Many analysts said dont expect too much on QE3.


tiancai007      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:47) Posted:

I think will cheong in the afternoon on expectations of stimulus package. Mkt always move up whenever there is Fed meeting.  

Sgshares      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:04) Posted:

market looks weak to me today as well...just need second opinion. Thanks


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tiancai007
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 Alert Admin 		I think will cheong in the afternoon on expectations of stimulus package. Mkt always move up whenever there is Fed meeting.  

Sgshares      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:04) Posted:

market looks weak to me today as well...just need second opinion. Thanks

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Sgshares
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20-Sep-2011 13:46     
 
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 Alert Admin 		see...after 1.45pm...the selling starts again.

iPunter      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:38) Posted:

Maybe all the big boys go out for lunch at those times...  Smiley

Sgshares      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:23) Posted:

just curious...how come the index always will go up betw 12pm - 1.45pm? even though the market is bad


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rotijai
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20-Sep-2011 13:42     
 
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he's good at delivering speeches.. but due to several reasons he cant seem to put the speeches into action..

definitely this isnt his fault but at the same time it shows his inability to deliver wat he said

risktaker      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 12:27) Posted:

Obama is the greatest living PR. He smart and hes good at delivering his speech very well. I like him.

rotijai      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 12:17) Posted:



nowadays we dont get to see great leaders in euro/the us..

the republicans just condemned obama's proposal :
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iPunter
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 Alert Admin 		Maybe all the big boys go out for lunch at those times...  Smiley

Sgshares      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:23) Posted:

just curious...how come the index always will go up betw 12pm - 1.45pm? even though the market is bad

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Sgshares
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20-Sep-2011 13:23     
 
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 Alert Admin 		just curious...how come the index always will go up betw 12pm - 1.45pm? even though the market is bad
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JUNWEI9756
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20-Sep-2011 13:16     
 
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 Alert Admin 		I second that :)

iPunter      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:06) Posted:



But if anyone is full of confidence, and urge you to buy,

        you should rightly demand some assurance.

              If not, it's not worth to just lose quietly... Smiley 


Sgshares      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:02) Posted:

i know...i dont blame anyone. Thanks anyway.


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SGG_SGG
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20-Sep-2011 13:13     
 
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Good attitude there.

Must note that many forummers do not give an entry and exit price, which leaves you a huge grey area. Risk tolerance/appetite may also vary between your own trading style and someone else. So it's best you ask direct from the source you are following. Or else, you will really have to be your own judge, win or lose.

If you study this forum you can see there are many vague calls, no head no tail, just say buy or sell. The margin for loss is huge in such cases coz you really dunno the entry and exit prices.. Cheers!


Sgshares      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:02) Posted:

i know...i dont blame anyone. Thanks anyway.

JUNWEI9756      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 12:49) Posted:



cannot blame me if wrong leh...

i always not accurate one..

But i think selling will still continue...

It has not eased totally.. lol.. 
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iPunter
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But if anyone is full of confidence, and urge you to buy,

        you should rightly demand some assurance.

              If not, it's not worth to just lose quietly... Smiley 


Sgshares      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:02) Posted:

i know...i dont blame anyone. Thanks anyway.

JUNWEI9756      ( Date: 20-Sep-2011 12:49) Posted:



cannot blame me if wrong leh...

i always not accurate one..

But i think selling will still continue...

It has not eased totally.. lol.. 
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