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pharoah88
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04-Sep-2011 15:41
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Don't get seduced by analysts' darlings
The Straits Times
Sep 4, 2011 small change Investors who buy these four stocks could end up kissing their money goodbye By Andy Mukherjee If you have cash stuffed in your mattress or bank account, and if you are itching to put it to work in the markets, let me try to talk you out of it. For choppy markets to get better, sentiment must first hit rock bottom. Like it did in the first quarter of 2009.
Conditions are different now. Analysts are still overly bullish.
They are beginning to turn nervous, but are far from throwing in the towel.
In this column, I'll discuss four stocks as examples. These stocks have fallen between 12 and 16 per cent in the past month, underperforming the Straits Times Index, but analysts are overwhelmingly sanguine about their prospects. What if the analysts' optimism is misplaced?
A disclaimer before we proceed: I have selected the stocks based on some rules that I'll shortly explain. I don't have any position in them, nor do I intend to take any.
If these stocks outperform the index over the next six months, well, I'll have egg on my face. And if I'm proved right in my scepticism, I'll start holding investment seminars (just kidding).
Let's move on. What the four stocks have in common is this:
Analysts are in love with them.
Their ardour is beginning to cool, but it'll be a while before the consensus opinion on these stocks turns negative. At that point, they'll become interesting again.
Measuring love is simple. I required consensus estimates for the target price - the analyst community's opinion of a stock's fair value - to be at least 25 per cent higher than the current price.
But how do we know whether analysts are beginning to feel nervous about these companies that they are so enamoured of? With that in mind, I pared down the list to retain only those stocks on which at least twice as many analysts have cut their full-year earnings forecasts in the past month as have increased them. I looked at only those Singapore-listed stocks for which 'buy' ratings by analysts, compiled by Bloomberg, comprised at least 60 per cent of all recommendations in the past year. Further, to exclude illiquid stocks that aren't widely covered by analysts, I whittled down the list to only those that have secured at least 10 'buy' ratings from analysts in the past year. At the end of this exercise, I was left with four names. Noble Group Analysts are still wildly bullish about Noble, which supplies energy, food and mining products where these are needed. The consensus estimate for the stock suggests a 35 per cent upside. But some cracks in confidence are beginning to emerge. Ms Zuo Li at IIFL Capital cut her earnings growth forecast for Noble by 12 to 20 per cent for the current year and the next two. Keep an eye on the European money markets. As the 2008 crisis clearly showed, when money markets dry up, trade - and traders - get hit. Noble shares fell more than 80 per cent between June and October 2008. Indofood Agri Resources Indofood Agri, which produces and refines palm oil, is another analysts' darling languishing in the dumps. With the hiving off of Salim Ivomas Pratama, which was separately listed in May, the company is sitting on 6.1 trillion Indonesian rupiah (S$860 million) in cash, with little clarity from management on future expansion. Meanwhile, the profit accruing to Indofood shareholders grew less than expected in the June quarter, according to a Nomura report. Still, analysts are hopeful. The consensus estimate for the stock's target price is about 33 per cent higher than the current price.
Genting Singapore 'Spurned'. That's how Ms Magdalene Choong at PhillipCapital titled her analysis of the casino operator's 'exceptionally weak' second-quarter earnings.
Chip volumes declined 13 per cent from the previous three months' as high rollers took a breather to nurse the previous quarter's losses. Or they may have gone to Marina Bay Sands to gamble the night away. According to Ms Choong, who downgraded the stock to 'hold' last month, the outlook for the stock does not look enticing. 'In view of the downwards revision on GDP as well as rising risks from Western economies, we further reduce Genting's valuation,' she wrote. Overall, though, the analyst community is still gung-ho on Genting. After as many as 12 downgrades in the past month on the company's full-year earnings potential, the consensus target price is still 28 per cent higher than the market price.
The longer the analyst community stays on the wrong side of the market, the more quickly it can surrender. DBS With the United States Federal Reserve promising to keep overnight interest rates at about zero until mid-2013, local-currency interbank rates in Singapore, to which the domestic banks' lending rates are pegged, have collapsed. One key rate - the swap offer rate - has even turned negative. 'This development has dashed whatever hope there was in the market earlier about net interest margin bottoming out and recovering next year,' Kim Eng Securities analyst James Koh wrote in a recent research note, cutting his rating on all three Singapore banks to 'sell'. The consensus in the analyst community, however, is that DBS Group's fair value is 28 per cent higher than what the stock currently sells for. If the Singapore economy slips into a technical recession this quarter and loan growth slows markedly, then the lingering optimism on DBS could dissipate. That could be risky for investors. For now, the cash in your mattress is quite safe where it is. If you really want to do something with your money, consider stocks with high dividend yields. andym@sph.com.sg My Value Investing Blog: http://sgmusicwhiz.blogspot.com/ |
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pharoah88
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02-Sep-2011 09:19
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stoheart72
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01-Sep-2011 16:31
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At this hr, Euro market seems to be pointing towards red. If US market follow suit, tmr will see some drop in gsp. | ||||
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gabjen
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01-Sep-2011 15:42
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I'm still waiting for your reply on this topic.Do you have an answer?I noticed that your posts is  all about talking down Genting and GentingHk,perhaps you have an agenda with them but please do not post  false information to mislead others in the forum.
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stoheart72
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01-Sep-2011 15:20
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Euro started their day with rather flat market with no indication of their direction. But judging from HSI gained over 1k pts in the pass 5 days, there might be a correction coming up soon, so good luck all. | ||||
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pharoah88
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01-Sep-2011 12:15
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gaming stocks undervalued ? |
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AnthonyTan
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01-Sep-2011 10:48
Yells: "patience" |
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Is  your posting any connection or relevant to Gen Sp? Care to share.
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pharoah88
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01-Sep-2011 09:37
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CAPITAL SECURITIES: MGM CHINA's valuation 'undemanding' Capital Securities says it is beginning coverage of Macau-based luxury resort, hotel and casino operator MGM China Holdings Ltd (HK: 2282) with a BUY recommendation and target price of 17.08 hkd. Capital also calls MGM China a " lagging player.” “The company is also exploring other casino gaming development opportunities in Macau. " We find the current valuation is undemanding,” Capital said. Capital added that MGM China benefits from the “strong growth rate of the industry.” Key risks include political and policy risks, interest rate risks, intensifying competition and uncertainties from the black market. “MGM China operates a premium integrated casino resort on the Macau Peninsula, and enjoys an 11.4% market share out of the 33 casinos in Macau. “The flagship property is MGM Macau, which is an award-wining, five star integrated casino and luxury hotel resort located on the Macau Peninsula, which is in the same neighbourhood as Wynn Macau and Encore at Wynn Macau, Casino L’Arc Macau, Galaxy StarWorld, and the Grand Lisboa.” MGM China saw a robust first half, with total operating revenue up 94.8% y-o-y at 9.9 bln hkd, which was due to a combination of factors, including strong overall Macau market growth, enhanced marketing efforts and property improvements. “Investors should bear in mind that MGM China released net debt to capital ratio of 28.1% (1H10: 72.8%),” Capital added. Listed on June 3, 2011, Capital said there is really a lack of a track record for MGM China. “As such, we find pure play approach is feasible for estimating the beta of MGM China. " That said, we need to find a similar casino operator to derive the beta of MGM China.” |
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lowchia
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31-Aug-2011 22:22
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On Wednesday, Genting SP broke the minor resistance at $1.63 and closed at $1.665 with HIGH volume of 0.161 billion shares traded. A long white candle sticks with little upper shadow affirms on the slight profit taking. RSI & MACD are bullish as MACD lines perform a “golden cross” Immediate Resistance of Genting SP: $1.77 Immediate Support of Genting: $1.63 Currently prices are resisted by 20 days MA. Today prices broke ................ READ MORE   |
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tormont
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31-Aug-2011 22:18
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oh thx for the reply... good luck to all HUAT arh! | ||||
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New123
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31-Aug-2011 22:15
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Mkt will process the trade from 5 - 5.04pm and consolidate the result at 5.05pm. Your order was being filled during this period.. Nevermind, I think beginner always has beginner luck to make the 1st trading gain... Dow is up again. Tmr Genting Sp is going up again...Good luck!
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bryansng
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31-Aug-2011 22:11
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you keyed in your order during the matching period. Best fit price to your purchase order, if im not wrong....   and GSP closed at 1.665
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tormont
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31-Aug-2011 21:40
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i'm quite curious. i queue at 16:59 for 1.665 17:00 it close at 1.675.  suddenly i receive a msg say i bought at 1.665 at 17:05. how come close liao i still can fill my queueat 17:05??? can any senior enlighten me??? just a newbie here
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belgeran
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31-Aug-2011 19:35
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investors could always match it at 17:05... ?
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Mrox73
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31-Aug-2011 17:28
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I agree...no one can actually predict...coz is so unpredictable. And I do not understand why some people can portray with such confidence...and best thing.. is with no base...and always get it wrong. (No offence pls..i  am not pointing to anyone.) No doubt, here is a forum for us to share our view, we can help each other by sharing info and sentiments Lets enjoy.
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AnthonyTan
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31-Aug-2011 17:13
Yells: "patience" |
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Before 5pm last trading price is $1.675 17.05.06 pm transacted price $1.665. In other word, investors completely have no chance to purchase at $1.665 |
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limkt009
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31-Aug-2011 16:58
Yells: "Watch your front, grab $$$$$ at your own time" |
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Who says short legs cannot run fast. | ||||
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stoheart72
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31-Aug-2011 16:48
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Agree, looking at the direction of the sentiment, it should hit above that by tomorrow's trading.
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AnthonyTan
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31-Aug-2011 16:38
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Not too far away, good luck
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stoheart72
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31-Aug-2011 15:57
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Looks like the Euro market is on the positive sentiment tonight with their banks planning funding aids. Should have positive effect in the direction of tonight's US market. | ||||
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