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12-Apr-2008 13:24
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US markets had so much red inks yesterday. THis is no good for us next week coupled with inflation indicators coming and big banks telling how much they bleed. Very hard for us next week | ||
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11-Apr-2008 23:36
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i feel very noisy,,,,here,,,shout buy and shout sell,,,,,for me just stay slideline,,,,,avoid to go in,first,tis baby ready went up VERY hight from bottom,,any bad news can cause a stupid sell down ,,,when monday i saw china counter suddenly up and down repreat within one day and small ikan billy all chiong like non government terrority,,,,,,im tell myself to wait for durian dropping season,,,,,,anyway monday is a very important day,,,,,,,contra player and lock in profit day coming......a lot durian cheap cheap fllooooood in the market again,,,,,,,,,,,now im still waiting dow jones tomorow closing bllloooody red ,,,,,,,,,,, | ||
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11-Apr-2008 23:23
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See how news flow and how sentiments switch.... | ||
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11-Apr-2008 23:08
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DBS just released a report on Cosco: Buy, target 4.00 | ||
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11-Apr-2008 22:41
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Citi must be banging boss now and trying to shout down the price! | ||
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11-Apr-2008 22:24
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While concerns raised by analysts are valid, it is overstatement to equate cosco to chartered. Chartered is a company, that in most of its operating years, burning cash. Is cosco burning cash? I like to hear more scaremongers talking down cosco which mean can pick it up at bargain price later... hehe. |
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11-Apr-2008 22:08
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whoa...this article is way too long...hahah` | ||
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Better to sell.....another chartered in its heydays... Citi Investment Research is a division of Citigroup Global Markets Inc. (the "Firm"), which does and seeks to do business with companies covered in its research reports. As a result, investors should be aware that the Firm may have a conflict of interest that could affect the objectivity of this report. Investors should consider this report as only a single factor in making their investment decision. Non-US research analysts who have prepared this report are not registered/qualified as research analysts with the NYSE and/or NASD. Such research analysts may not be associated persons of the member organization and therefore may not be subject to the NYSE Rule 472 and NASD Rule 2711 restrictions on communications with a subject company, public appearances and trading securities held by a research analyst account. 1 Citigroup Global Markets Singapore PTE LIMITED; 2Citibank NACitigroup Global Markets Equity Research Asia Pacific Singapore Marine (GICS) Shipbuilding (Citi) Company Focus 11 April 2008 18 pages Cosco Corporation (Singapore) (COSC.SI) Downgrade to Sell: More Questions than Answers rising concerns over margin contraction and slowing orderbook momentum. Our revised target price of S$2.70 implies downside of 2% from current levels. Downgrade to Sell ? We downgrade Cosco from Buy (1L) to Sell (3L) amid Cosco?s orderbook could be scaled back since management is not able to clarify if current contracted orderbook are secured with down payment. So far, 7 out of its 115 bulk carriers have not received down payment, but there is a possibility the actual figure could be higher, in our view. Cosco is now awaiting its Chinese shipyard to re-confirm its actual orderbook. Key takeaways ? Key takeaways from our conference call raise concerns that flags on the back of 1) rising contract cancellations due to credit crunch and slowing economy growth, 2) margin concerns yet to abate since steel prices continue to overshoot, 3) potential oversupply of bulk carriers in 2009-10. Need to monitor industry risks further ? From a macro perspective, we see red after the following changes: 1) removed the top-line contribution from the Red Flag semi-sub hull order, 2) pared down our FY07 ship newbuilding orders by S$1.0 bn or equal to cancellation of 15 bulk carriers out of total orderbook of 115 bulk carriers (total value S$7.6 bn), 3) moderated our FY10E gross margin assumptions by 118 basis points in light of rising labor and material costs. Cutting estimates again ? Our new forecasts are 9-16% below consensus ests established and quality players like Keppel and SembCorp Marine. Flight to quality names ? We believe there will be a switch out of Cosco to moreFigure 1. Cosco Corp ? Statistical Abstract Yr to Revenue Reported Profit Net Profit (ex-El) FD EPS (ex-El) % Chg P/E P/CEPS FV/EBITDA P/NTA Net DPS Net Yield 31-Dec (S$ mn) (S$ mn) (S$ mn) S$ (x) (x) (x) (x) S$ (%) 2006 1,215 181 157 0.071 15% 40.2 19.9 18.3 9.5 0.040 1.4% 2007 2,262 337 337 0.150 112% 19.0 11.4 9.9 6.9 0.070 2.5% 2008E 4,746 504 504 0.225 50% 12.7 7.5 5.8 5.3 0.108 3.8% 2009E 6,089 582 582 0.260 16% 11.0 6.4 4.4 4.4 0.144 5.0% 2010E 6,913 632 632 0.282 9% 10.1 5.8 3.5 3.7 0.164 5.8% Source: Company Reports and Citi Investment Research estimates Sell/Low Risk 3L from Buy/Low Risk Price (10 Apr 08) S$2.85 Target price S$2.70 from S$4.50 Expected share price return -5.3% Expected dividend yield 3.8% Expected total return -1.5% Market Cap S$6,381M US$4,702M Price Performance (RIC: COSC.SI, BB: COS SP) See Appendix A-1 for Analyst Certification and important disclosures. Jit Soon Lim, CFA 1+65-6432-1168 jit.soon.lim@citi.com Horng Han Low 1+65-6432-1161 horng.han.low@citi.com Rigan Wong 2rigan.wong@citi.com Change in opinion Rating change Target price change Estimate change Cosco Corporation (Singapore) (COSC.SI) 11 April 2008 Citigroup Global 2 obal Markets Equity ResearchFiscal year end 31-Dec Valuation Ratios 2006 2007 2008E 2009E 2010EP/E adjusted (x) 33.9 20.0 12.7 11.0 10.1 EV/EBITDA adjusted (x) 19.1 11.3 6.6 5.4 4.7 P/BV (x) 9.4 6.8 5.3 4.3 3.7 Dividend yield (%) 1.4 2.5 3.8 5.0 5.8 Per Share Data (S$) EPS adjusted 0.08 0.14 0.23 0.26 0.28 EPS reported 0.09 0.14 0.23 0.26 0.28 BVPS 0.30 0.42 0.54 0.66 0.78 DPS 0.04 0.07 0.11 0.14 0.16 Profit & Loss (S$M) Net sales 1,215 2,262 4,746 6,089 6,913 Operating expenses -921 -1,785 -3,962 -5,162 -5,890 EBIT 294 477 785 927 1,022 Net interest expense -12 3 19 29 42 Non-operating/exceptionals 1 1 1 1 1 Pre-tax profit 283 480 804 957 1,065 Tax -23 -20 -51 -63 -72 Extraord./Min.Int./Pref.div. -50 -142 -249 -312 -361 Reported net income 210 319 504 583 632 Adjusted earnings 186 319 504 583 632 Adjusted EBITDA 356 557 879 1,025 1,123 Growth Rates (%) Sales 39.2 86.1 109.9 28.3 13.5 EBIT adjusted 30.5 62.2 64.5 18.1 10.3 EBITDA adjusted 26.7 56.7 57.7 16.6 9.6 EPS adjusted 23.2 69.3 58.3 15.5 8.5 Cash Flow (S$M) Operating cash flow 414 1,569 784 1,086 1,057 Depreciation/amortization 62 81 94 98 101 Net working capital 47 1,027 -64 94 -36 Investing cash flow -251 -447 -175 -142 -143 Capital expenditure -313 -471 -175 -142 -143 Acquisitions/disposals 56 10 0 0 0 Financing cash flow -20 -334 -242 -320 -367 Borrowings 23 -230 0 0 0 Dividends paid -49 -119 -242 -320 -367 Change in cash 144 787 367 623 547 Balance Sheet (S$M) Total assets 1,884 3,967 5,088 6,435 7,481 Cash & cash equivalent 278 1,083 1,450 2,072 2,619 Accounts receivable 267 828 1,214 1,641 1,958 Net fixed assets 1,122 1,490 1,570 1,614 1,657 Total liabilities 964 2,664 3,274 4,047 4,466 Accounts payable 530 2,416 3,026 3,799 4,218 Total Debt 412 176 176 176 176 Shareholders' funds 920 1,303 1,814 2,388 3,015 Profitability/Solvency Ratios (%) EBITDA margin adjusted 29.3 24.6 18.5 16.8 16.2 ROE adjusted 31.3 39.6 47.1 43.7 39.6 ROIC adjusted 27.1 61.3 144.1 155.3 166.4 Net debt to equity 14.6 -69.6 -70.2 -79.4 -81.0 Total debt to capital 30.9 11.9 8.9 6.9 5.5 For further data queries on Citi's full coverage universe please contact CIR Data Services Asia Pacific at CIRDataServicesAsiaPacific@citi.com or +852-2501- 2791 Cosco Corporation (Singapore) (COSC.SI) 11 April 2008 Citigroup Global 3 obal Markets Equity ResearchConcerns arising over quality of orderbook and earnings We hosted a conference call with Cosco management on the back of a semi sub rig hull order cancellation by Red Flag (Norway) as a result of this customer's inability to secure credit financing and also to obtain more colour on the strength of the orderbook momentum. We are less concerned over the contract cancellation as we believe Red Flag is a weak player in the O&M space (i.e. speculator) and fell victim to the credit crunch. Thus, the cancellation should not be reflective of the industry strength. However, key takeaways from our conference call raises concerns that Cosco orderbook could be scaled back since management is not able to re-confirm its contracted orderbook are secured with down payment. Industry practice requires a 20-25% minimum down payment in order to secure the contract. Although management did clarify 7 out of its 115 bulk carriers have not received down payment, we do not discount the possibility that the actual figure could be higher. Cosco is awaiting its Chinese shipyards to revert if there are any changes to its orderbook. On the back of this inconsistent datapoint, credibility issues are raised and increases uncertainty over its earnings growth prospects. In our view, the inconsistent flow of information from the company could be attributed to the rapid expansion of the company, thus warranting greater need for control and reporting procedures. At the same time, margin issues were raised again during the conference call, but management is upbeat as it has hedged the raw material requirements for this year. Cutting reduced estimates by another 1-12% We have made the following changes to our assumptions: 1) removed the topline contribution from the Red Flag semi-sub hull order, 2) pared down our FY07 ship newbuilding orders by S$1.0 bn or equal to cancellation of 15 bulk carriers out of total orderbook of 115 bulk carriers (total value S$7.6 bn), 3) moderated our FY10E gross margin assumptions by 118 basis points in the light of rising labor and material costs. We reduced our target PER to 12x from 18.5x to factor in negative headwinds arising from risk of further order cancellations, and rising cost pressures (pls see page 6-13 detailing our sector analysis). Our FY08-10E net profit estimates are revised downwards by 1-12% and our target price reduced to S$2.70 from S$4.50. Our target price of S$2.70 implies downside of 2% from current levels. Cosco Corporation (Singapore) (COSC.SI) 11 April 2008 Citigroup Global 4 obal Markets Equity ResearchFigure 2. Cosco Corp ? Earnings Revisions Net Profit (S$ mn) Change EPS (S$) Change DPS (S$) Change New Old (%) New Old (%) New Old (%) FY2008E 504.3 509.6 -1% 0.23 0.23 -1% 0.11 0.11 -1% FY2009E 582.5 610.7 -5% 0.26 0.27 -5% 0.14 0.15 -5% FY2010E 632.2 719.1 -12% 0.28 0.32 -12% 0.16 0.19 -12% Source: Citi Investment Research Cosco Corporation (Singapore) (COSC.SI) 11 April 2008 Citigroup Global 5 obal Markets Equity ResearchFigure 3. Global Yard Valuation Comparisons Company RIC Rating Curr Price Target FY Ends Mkt Cap P/E P/B EV/EBITDA Div. Yld 10-Apr-08 Price (USD mn) 2007 2008E 2009E 2007 2008E 2009E 2007 2008E 2009E 2007 2008E 2009E Cosco Corp (Singapore) COSC.SI 3L SGD 2.85 2.70 Dec 4,702 20.0 12.7 11.0 6.8 5.3 4.3 9.8 5.8 4.4 2.5% 3.8% 5.0% Yangzijiang YAZG.SI NR SGD 0.945 NA Dec 2,299 16.9 11.8 10.5 4.8 3.4 2.7 13.7 7.7 5.5 1.7% 2.0% 3.6% Guangzhou Shipyard Intl Ltd-H 0317.HK NR HKD 24.75 NA Dec 2,027 14.0 10.7 8.1 5.8 3.8 2.7 14.6 13.7 12.9 2.1% 3.1% 3.8% Guangzhou Shipyard Intl Ltd-A 600685.SS NR CNY 42.02 NA Dec 2,027 22.8 16.9 13.6 10.8 7.6 5.4 12.7 12.1 9.7 0.5% 1.3% 2.2% China State Shipbuilding Co. Ltd. 600150.SS NR CNY 121.89 NA Dec 11,550 24.3 14.7 10.4 8.8 5.3 3.9 13.9 10.3 7.5 0.4% 1.6% 2.7% China Average 4,521 19.6 13.3 10.7 7.4 5.1 3.8 13.0 9.9 8.0 1.4% 2.3% 3.5% Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering 042660.KS 1L KRW 41350 96000 Dec 8,113 24.8 10.4 6.4 4.5 3.5 2.4 16.2 6.9 4.0 1.0% 2.9% 3.6% Hyundai Heavy Industries 009540.KS 1M KRW 381500 760000 Dec 29,722 16.7 11.4 8.6 5.3 4.1 3.0 13.2 9.5 7.2 2.0% 3.1% 3.1% Hyundai Mipo Dockyard 010620.KS 1M KRW 230500 610000 Dec 4,726 8.7 8.8 7.2 1.5 1.3 1.2 10.9 7.5 5.5 3.3% 3.5% 4.3% Samsung Heavy Industries 010140.KS 1L KRW 35000 80000 Dec 8,284 16.6 10.4 6.4 4.5 3.4 2.4 11.9 7.0 4.2 1.4% 2.9% 3.6% Hanjin Heavy Industries 003480.KS NR KRW 36350 NA Dec 1,100 13.6 8.5 6.6 1.3 1.4 1.1 2.6 2.0 1.9 1.4% 1.5% 1.5% STX Shipbuilding 067250.KS NR KRW 37600 NA Dec 2,775 12.7 7.2 5.6 3.5 2.5 1.8 20.2 9.6 6.3 1.4% 1.2% 1.3% Korea Average 9,120 15.5 9.5 6.8 3.4 2.7 2.0 12.5 7.1 4.8 1.7% 2.5% 2.9% Keppel Corp KPLM.SI 1L SGD 10.14 15.70 Dec 11,805 14.2 12.9 11.3 3.1 3.2 2.7 13.7 9.9 7.7 6.3% 3.6% 4.2% SembCorp Marine SCMN.SI 1L SGD 3.55 5.10 Dec 5,419 20.4 14.7 13.3 4.4 3.9 3.6 16.9 12.6 11.7 2.5% 4.9% 5.6% Jaya Holdings JAYA.SI NR SGD 1.4 NA Jun 794 8.4 7.5 6.8 2.8 2.5 2.2 7.0 5.9 5.5 7.7% 8.2% 9.3% Singapore Average 6,006 14.3 11.7 10.5 3.4 3.2 2.8 12.6 9.4 8.3 5.5% 5.6% 6.4% Aker Kvaerner ASA AKSO.OL 1M NOK 126.25 171 Dec 6,906 13.8 11.8 9.2 4.7 3.9 3.1 7.9 6.1 4.5 2.9% 3.4% 4.4% Bharati Shipyard^ BHAR.BO 1M INR 469 790 Mar 324 14.8 9.7 6.1 4.3 3.0 2.1 11.4 10.8 7.6 0.6% 0.6% 0.7% Others Average 3,615 14.3 10.7 7.6 4.5 3.4 2.6 9.6 8.4 6.1 1.8% 2.0% 2.5% Global Average 6,411 16.4 11.3 8.8 4.8 3.6 2.8 12.3 8.6 6.6 2.3% 3.0% 3.7% ^ EPS and DPS are calendarized. Source: Citi Investment Research. IBES and Bloomberg for Non-Rated (NR) Companies. Cosco Corporation (Singapore) (COSC.SI) 11 April 2008 Citigroup Global 6 obal Markets Equity ResearchOperating conditions have already peaked Although Cosco Shipyard (COS) is better positioned than peers since it is supported by its strong parent with a large ageing fleet that should be able to keep COS's yards busy in the event of a downturn, operating conditions in the shipbuilding industry has recently turned more cautious, impacted by order cancellations due to credit fallout, slower economic growth, as well as margin concerns arising due to increase in raw material prices. We highlight the macro challenges ahead. 1) Contract cancellations starting to flow Tightening credit markets have started to affect customers in the ship building industry, where potential new build contracts have been dropped due to difficulty in obtaining financing. The impact is particularly acute for small and medium-size shipping companies as they face a tougher time in getting shipping loans, as banks scale back because of the US subprime crisis. According to South Korea?s German freight shipping operator, abruptly dropped negotiations last quarter with Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. to build nine container ships worth US$1.5 billion, citing inability to get financing for the deal. Fortunately, the market was strong and, according to Hyundai Heavy, these slots have since been taken up by other shippers. However, the outlook from Istanbul-based Horizon Shipping suggest the situation has turned more severe. It recently cancelled its $222m order for up to eight bulkers from Daesun Shipbuilding & Engineering in South Korea due to its inability to make its first payment. The contract involves six firms and two optional 32,000-dwt ships at the end of last year for delivery by May 2011. The vessels were priced at $37m each with five 20% instalments. The $44.4m for the ships' first payment was due 60 days after the contract signing date. Maeil Business Newspaper, Claus-Peter Offen, aFigure 4. Shipbuilding Industry Cancellations Date Customer Order Cancellations Shipbuilder Contract value Remarks Jan-08 Jinhui Holdings (China) 2 VLOCs Dalian Shipbuilding Industry Co. (China) US$245m Inability to obtain financing; cost of cancellation is only US$2m per ship Jan-08 Medcare (Greece) 2 bulk carriers (92500 dwt) Kouan Shipyard (China) Est. US$100m "Unacceptable hike in the price to provide replacement engines with lower quality" Feb-08 Odfjell Tankers (Norway) 12 chemical carriers Sevmash Shipyard (Russia) US$500m but increased to US$544m subsequently "Serious delays in the construction process" and "demands for further price increases" by Sevmash Mar-08 Horizon Shipping (Istanbul) 6 bulk carriers (32000 dwt) with 2 on option Daesun Shipbuilding & Engineering (South Korea) US$222m Inability to obtain financing Mar-08 China Energy Shipping (CESC) Cut 80 bulk ship order down to just 20 Split between China State Shipbuilding Corp (CSSC) and China Shipbuilding Industry Corp (CSIC) Undisclosed Reduced shipping ambitions Source: Company Reports, Bloomberg Cosco Corporation (Singapore) (COSC.SI) 11 April 2008 Citigroup Global 7 obal Markets Equity ResearchChinese yards have also not been spared from the recent credit fallout. Hong Kong-listed shipping firm Jinhui Holdings terminated an order for two Very Large Ore Carriers (VLOCs) with two Chinese yards, as borrowing costs surged amid the global credit crunch. The ships were scheduled for delivery in 2011 and worth US$122.6mn each. The cost of cancellation to Jinhui was reported to be US$2mn per ship, or a mere 1.6% of the contract value (source: Bloomberg). According to Jinhui, ?since the subprime mortgage financial crisis unfolded during the past few months, financial institutions have reduced their willingness to loan funds to other financial institutions and to corporations in general, resulting in a global credit crunch. Despite receiving a number of financing proposals from a number of banks with regards to the financing of the two VLOCs, proposed terms and conditions from the banks were found to be much less flexible than those previously enjoyed by the Group, coupled with a significant increase in cost of borrowing even when a fifteen-year time charter contract with a first class Chinese steel mill was in place. The riskreturn profile of completing the contracts has thus changed drastically due to persistent negative sentiment clouding the global financial markets.? Recent order cancellations cited by locally-listed Yangzijiang already indicate the slowing global economic growth has started to hurt the industry. Management has also recently announced that they have yet to secure any contract in the month of March. With current high new build prices and operating costs, break-even levels for new ships have become higher, and owners may become more cautious about taking delivery of ships in uncertain market conditions unless they have firm charters with reliable charterers in place. If outlook appears negative, owners may decide to cancel their orders, even if it entails sacrificing the initial payment, or delay taking delivery even at the cost of penalty payments. 2) Margin concerns yet to abate Supply-side cost pressures particularly over the cost of steel, engines/other equipment, and labor pose threat to margins. We believe rising steel prices is one of the largest threats that Cosco faces. As a gauge, flat steel prices have reached US$853/ton after rising 27% ytd (+20% in 07) and has already overshot consensus forecast of a 10-15% YoY increase. As a group, steel related raw materials (including engines and shafts) contribute ~30-40% of COGS but the margin impact varies across various divisions due to the project duration since Cosco does not entirely hedge its raw material costs for projects more than 12 months ahead. Among various business segments, rise in steel plates poses the highest risks for ship building since its order book stretches till 2010 and has little room for negotiation. We also see cost pressure arising for offshore (~10% of sales) but is less intense as most contracts secured last year are due for delivery soon, and raw materials costs are largely locked in. Cosco Corporation (Singapore) (COSC.SI) 11 April 2008 Citigroup Global 8 obal Markets Equity ResearchWill Chinese steel plate prices peak in 2008? According to a recent article by on the rise, despite recent downward corrections in prices for other steel products. As of 15 Jan 2008, using the 20mm plate steel price set by Yingkou Steel as benchmark, average price of commercial 20mm HR plate will reach RMB 6620/ton (vs 5120/ton in Jan 08), representing a 30% increase according to Mysteel.net. Steel plate demand from multiple sources ? construction, mechanical production, and shipbuilding ? is likely to surpass plate production capacity in China. Chinese steel plate producers have shifted towards ship plate production in 2007, with ship plates making up 14% of steel plate output in November 2007, up from 3.8% in the beginning of 2007, and mainly driven by robust demand from Chinese shipbuilders. In the first 11 months of 2007, ship plate output by major Chinese plate producers increased 82.3% yoy to reach 10.71mn tons. While Chinese ship plate production has increased substantially, prices remain sustained by strong domestic demand and, increasingly, robust exports especially to South Korea. Mysteel.net, Chinese steel plate prices are stillFigure 6. Prices of Thick Steel Plate for Shipbuilding (¥/MT) Note: Prices for 2008 and 2009 are estimates. Source: Nikko Citigroup Limited based on newspaper reports and company discussions. According to our Steel analysts Toshiyuki Johno and Mariko Asao, Asian steel prices are on an uptrend, driven by tight supply against strong demand and forecasts of rising raw material prices. They foresee a high probability of major price hikes for thick steel plates in particular, as they forecast tight supply/demand for the time being on growing demand for shipbuilding, machinery, and pipeline applications. Figure 5. Steel Price Benchmarks (Rmb/t) 2007E 2008E 2009E 2010E Plate 20mm 3,794 4,059 3,865 3,479 Source: CIR estimates and CRU Cosco Corporation (Singapore) (COSC.SI) 11 April 2008 Citigroup Global 9 obal Markets Equity ResearchJFE recently succeeded in raising prices of steel plate for a South Korean shipbuilder (for April- September 2008) to $880/MT from $650/MT. At the same time, Nippon Steel raised the price to over ¥95,000/MT from $650/MT |
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11-Apr-2008 21:11
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a sincere thanks to u Onesharer
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11-Apr-2008 20:49
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I normally don't note down the number of shares purchased. But just for you lah, I purposely went back and checked. Purchases were made by two directors of subsidiaries: 1. Additional 50K @ $2.90. 2. An additional 30K @ 2.89. |
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11-Apr-2008 20:37
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can share with us how much the director bought and at what price? thanks!
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11-Apr-2008 20:26
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Just notice directors of subsidiaries also purchased shares in the open mkt today. | ||
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11-Apr-2008 18:33
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I believe those act is to create fear.... and buy at lower price...
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11-Apr-2008 17:34
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I've been wondering about this kind of last miinute sell down. Whatz the purpose?
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11-Apr-2008 16:57
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Big sell order there are like iceberg. when 5pm is near, it starts to melt. The end result is it keep selling lower. That happens yesterday. Next week more interested for those who bought at least 50c higher before yesterday melt down. |
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11-Apr-2008 16:52
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Small fries like us should stay out until there is a clear trend unless you are able to stomach the big risks/rewards. |
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11-Apr-2008 16:48
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I say close at 2.89 after yesterday lesson. It's everyone guess | ||
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11-Apr-2008 16:45
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Ya la.. it wont break 3 today... next wk it will ;)
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i reckon it will close at 2.95. | ||
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11-Apr-2008 16:42
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Be very careful not to load too much cos of sudden run. I saw artificial buy order withdrawal every now n then. If these artifical clear the sell queue, it is fine, but NOT | ||
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