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04-Feb-2010 08:50

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many lessons to learn.

when planning for really long term 'investment' it is necessary to consider and use joint alternate account BUT keep the account book in SAFE.

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28-Jan-2010 11:57

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think about this: when it was traded at 5 cents, who has confidence to BUY big big???

share buy / sell is tricky business

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28-Jan-2010 11:56

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Not too safe .. if must go there, need to take more precaution

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06-Jan-2010 10:27

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see chart, it must rebounce around 2.44, else downtrend can be stronger

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06-Jan-2010 09:52

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JUST RE POST

Alligator Veteran	16-Dec-2009 09:21 About Alligator Contact Quote! Style: Combined Mood: About Me: "learning from past "
x 0 x 0 Alert Admin	From share investment book's data, NAV 1.37, PE 57.0, PB 1.7 (when share price is around 2.39) , no of shares : very high 3884 millions , mkt cap 8933 millions with share price around 2.65, then the PB will be =1.93

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29-Dec-2009 11:28

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if you like to use website, then u can read their website and get the NAV also

click this, to see NAV and discount to nav from share investment website:

http://www.sharesinvestment.com/prices/O18S11L0/

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29-Dec-2009 11:20

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From wiki:

Net asset value (NAV) is a term used to describe the value of an entity's assets less the value of its liabilities. The term is most commonly used in relation to open-ended or mutual funds due to the fact that shares of such funds are redeemed at their net asset value. However, the term may also be used as a synonym for book value or the equity value of a business. Net asset value may represent the value of the total equity, or it may be divided by the number of shares outstanding and, thereby, represent the per share net asset value.

There is no universal method of valuing assets and liabilities for the purposes of calculating net asset value, and the criteria used for the valuation will depend upon the circumstances, the purposes of the valuation and any regulations that may apply.

Anyway, the finance report will have NAV, a bi weekly Share investment book, have all the NAV in the book, it is easy to refer.

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16-Dec-2009 16:12

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Sorry to hear on your genuine mistake.

Just take this as a once in life time lesson.

then see that you are not the only one, read the SGX today's buy in report, you can see many others doing similar mistake. see some of them also one lot naked short , for example Federal, multichem, tritech

Buying-in Executed on December 15, 2009
SECURITY TOTAL QTY EXECUTED CURR TOTAL VALUE
BAN JOO 100,000 S$ 8,000.00
BENG KUANG 2,000 S$ 620.00
CAPITALAND 10,000 S$ 42,700.00
CAPMALLSASIA 2,000 S$ 5,440.00
CHARTEREDSC 500 S$ 1,350.00
CHINA ENERGY 40,000 S$ 10,200.00
CHINA XLX 5,000 S$ 3,525.00
EASTGATE 400,000 S$ 8,000.00
FEDERAL 1,000 S$ 210.00
GLOBAL YELLOWPGS 26,000 S$ 4,290.00
GOODPACK 3,000 S$ 3,450.00
HO BEE 8,000 S$ 12,720.00
KEPT&T 5,000 S$ 7,000.00
LI HENG 100,000 S$ 28,000.00
MATEX 25,000 S$ 2,250.00
MULTICHEM 1,000 S$ 220.00
OLAM 5,000 S$ 13,300.00
PAN HONG W121027 5,000 S$ 850.00
SING TEL 990 S$ 3,032.37
STI2850SGP100128 100,000 S$ 24,500.00
TRITECH 1,000 S$ 305.00
UTDENVTECH 50,000 S$ 16,500.00
WING TAI LTD 7,000 S$ 12,670.00
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TOTAL S$ 209,132.37

alvinccfei ( Date: 16-Dec-2009 15:51) Posted:

I do admit this is a stupid mistake done on my side. Probably I can post my experience after I find out the outcome.....costly lesson though....

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16-Dec-2009 11:19

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i think 2 lotter and 1 lotter are different BBB

taybc1071 ( Date: 16-Dec-2009 11:12) Posted:

now selling 1 lot by 1 lot. Why?

ekekeg ( Date: 16-Dec-2009 10:00) Posted:

I noticed it too. Someone is using an auto pilot program to sell 2 lots at 39 cents every 5 seconds. Some experts are really experts. Think they are the sharks

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16-Dec-2009 09:21

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From share investment book's data,

NAV 1.37, PE 57.0, PB 1.7 (when share price is around 2.39) , no of shares : very high 3884 millions , mkt cap 8933 millions

with share price around 2.65, then the PB will be =1.93

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15-Dec-2009 13:52

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boyikao3, read this and try it out

To make image shown in forum page, you need to put your image from your computer and UPLOAD onto one of the web hosting site. many people had their BLOG or even run web hosting so there is no problem to them. However, if you dont have a web hosting site, then you can use any 'free image hosting' website to do that. When you unload your file to the web hosting site, it will provide you with an image link , and you just need to put this link into your SJ forum.

When you read pdf file you can move your mouse to the IMAGE of your interest, right click, copy image , then save it somewhere in your computer so that you know the file location.

Now, use any free image hosting website, for example use this one :: http://tinypic.com/

When you click this tinypic website, you shall see Upload Images &Videos. Just below this you see File (box) : type in your file location here.

Then go down and click the UPLOAD NOW buttom. The image from your computer will be uploaded onto tinypic.com. when it is complete, another page pop up, you just go to the Direct Link Layouts box, highlight and COPY this link ( this is the one to be used on SJ forum page).

Next, on your SJ forum page, on top of forum page you see many button, look for the second last button (Insert/Modify Image). Click it, a pop up shows up, you then type the location of image into the box (Image Usl), you can also do without typing: just move cursor to Direct Link Layouts box, highlight the Usl or image location, move the cursor into SJ forum's Insert/Modify Image pop up. paste.

To be sure you get the correct image, you can preview and see for yourself, when all is well, just post your message as usual.

Hope this helps.

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11-Dec-2009 11:38

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This is a good place for index

http://www.dryships.com/pages/report.asp

please note also there are many factors affecting share price, BDI is one of them.

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04-Dec-2009 19:18

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remember the true meaning of EX-Dividend: it means all BUY and SELL are WITHOUT dividend.

So trading on XD date or beyond means:

1. Seller sold withour dividend, therefore, seller KEEP the dividend

2. Buyer buy without dividend, so Buyer do not get dividend.

Answer to your question: if you sell on XD date, you are seller so you keep the dividend.

Raindrops ( Date: 04-Dec-2009 18:46) Posted:

Oh okok! Many many thanks! So if i sell it during the Xd date, i will still be entitled the dividend. So i just need to hold the stock till Xd date? :)

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04-Dec-2009 18:33

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Please DO NOT get confused by Book Closing DATE. Don't use that date!!!!

Most important date is EX-Dividend Date, on that day all transactions are WITHOUT dividend.

So you buy one day before XD, it means you buy Cum Dividend or on CD, so you are eligible for dividend.

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04-Dec-2009 08:33

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another example, new Aztech warrant,, agent is BACS PRIVATE LIMITED

AZTECH GROUP W121123


Last Date/ Time to submit Subscription Notice	23 NOV 2012 05:00 PM
Listing Date	26 NOV 2009
Expiry Date	23 NOV 2012
Outstanding Balance	81,272,000
Price ($) as at 2009-12-03	0.065
High for the year ($)	0.065
Low for the year ($)	0.040
High for the month ($)	0.065
Low for the month ($)	0.045
Exercise Price	SGD 0.20000
Underlying Stock	AZTECH GROUP LTD.
Underlying Stock Price ($) as at1 2009-12-03	0.215
Conversion Ratio	1 share(s) : 1 warrant(s)
Cash ($)	0.000
Premium/(Discount) (%) (Cash)	23.26
Premium/(Discount) (%) (Bonds)
Gearing (x)	3.31
Remarks

WARRANT AGENT

Name	BACS PRIVATE LIMITED
Telephone No.	65934848
Fax No.	65934847
Address	63 CANTONMENT ROAD SINGAPORE 089758

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04-Dec-2009 08:25

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for warrant exercising, your contact is the warrant agent, when you go into sgx website you can find out details of the warrant as well as warrant agent/their contacts etc. conversion is a paper work process. just call the warrant agent, spend some 5 minutes checking, they will tell you about the procedure.

example, yongnam warrant: the agent is listed as TRICOR BARBINDER SHARE REGISTRATION SVCS below from sgx website.

YONGNAM HOLDINGS LTD W121214


Last Date/ Time to submit Subscription Notice	14 DEC 2012 05:00 PM
Listing Date	21 DEC 2007
Expiry Date	14 DEC 2012
Outstanding Balance	364,844,244
Price ($) as at 2009-12-03	0.075
High for the year ($)	0.110
Low for the year ($)	0.010
High for the month ($)	0.080
Low for the month ($)	0.070
Exercise Price	SGD 0.25000
Underlying Stock	YONGNAM HOLDINGS LIMITED
Underlying Stock Price ($) as at1 2009-12-03	0.255
Conversion Ratio	1 share(s) : 1 warrant(s)
Cash ($)	0.000
Premium/(Discount) (%) (Cash)	27.45
Premium/(Discount) (%) (Bonds)
Gearing (x)	3.40
Remarks

WARRANT AGENT

Name	TRICOR BARBINDER SHARE REGISTRATION SVCS
Telephone No.	6236 3333
Fax No.	6236 4399
Address	8 CROSS STREET #11-00 PWC BUILDING SINGAPORE 048424

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26-Nov-2009 10:48

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so far i dun have any problem with this website, yesterday morning i do that to confirm CMA, no problem, today i try, no problem.

if your account number and password are correct, should be ok to get into their website.. if your problem is persistent, perhaps use another computer or another browser to confirm...

AnthonyTan ( Date: 26-Nov-2009 09:43) Posted:

Tks niuyear, tried many times orli since 25.11.09.

Tried many times again this morning but still unsucessful.

Don't when cdp will send me the confirmation slip.

In the meantime,cannot sell until confirmation.

niuyear ( Date: 26-Nov-2009 09:33) Posted:

Have a check on your login and password again. capital sensitive. :)

Not easy to get thru to them during peak hours and thats why they have internet service.

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25-Nov-2009 16:51

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yes, they will send you every transaction in hard copy as well as monthly statement,

online access is free, is very convenience, and can help us make decision on the day that rights/share/warrant are credited into your account. this one does not need to wait for hard copy, which is always delayed due to posting.

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25-Nov-2009 15:12

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just logon to the CDP website, u know immediately.

if u have not got CDP online service ( which is FREE) please go to apply one , very convenience

https://www1.cdp.com.sg/web33/scdcint/main/logon.do

Raindrops ( Date: 25-Nov-2009 15:05) Posted:

Hi, does any1 knows how to check for the capmall allocated results? Please help! Many thanks!

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25-Nov-2009 11:06

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it takes a long long time for me to learn :::

there is no GOOD stocks, BAD stocks, whether it is BLUE chips, super BLUE, penny , s chip whatever:

it is that entry price and exit price that counts...

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