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teeth53 Supreme	10-Mar-2008 17:18        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	YZJ closed below it IPO px again, isit due to spill over from KL or DOW or from China index play or it steel px?. Whatever it take... Time Last Volume Bid/Ask 17:05:04 0.920 1,363,000 X 16:59:51 0.925 10,000 A 16:59:45 0.920 3,000 B 16:59:41 0.920 5,000 B 16:59:31 0.925 1,000 A Yangzijiang -- -- 0.945 0.920 -0.030 -3.2 30,049,000 16,000 0.920 0.925 231,000 0.945 0.915
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louis_leecs Elite	10-Mar-2008 11:15        louis_leecs About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood: Yells: "half cash"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	BIG BOY SHORT POSITION STILL OPEN NOT COVER YET,,,,,,,,,,,,AVOID LOOK CLOSED WAIT FOR SIGNAL,,,,
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Farmer Master	10-Mar-2008 10:47        Farmer About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It has to first head down and surpass the 0.88 -95cts IPO price range before I'm convince logically. There's alway a potential for it to back track to $1.08-1.20 range should market suddenly turn favorable again.
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singaporegal Supreme	09-Mar-2008 10:20        singaporegal About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood: Yells: "Female TA nut"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This counter is now officially a penny stock. TA outlook is bearish. In the last couple of weeks, large volumes were traded with price heading south.
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teeth53 Supreme	08-Mar-2008 20:12        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lost of opportunities, bad timing, billion of Sing dollar got stuck and somemore our hard earn $$$, like us isit it...!!!! just as Ordinary and earn million of $ and don't like to tell us the other side of the coin when thing goes wrong, every year just report make more $ can liao.  I see this years as bad as last 2Q with US reporting going into recession and world richest man thinking to quit bailing out..........and even w/o bailing out. He is buying dirt cheap with condition.
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elfinchilde Elite	08-Mar-2008 16:05        elfinchilde About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	..actually, temasek has made some bad investments in the past. just that they have the benefit of having a large fund size (they're playing with our money, afterall ). and yea. 10 years later, the odds of having an improvement are actually the same. 50%. it doesn't mean one's better at investment. it can just mean you got stuck and had to wait for the next bull run to bail out.
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jackjames Elite	08-Mar-2008 12:41        jackjames About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Henry$$$, obviously, i can tell you 100%, after 5 years they will earn money.. the question now is when to enter? they enter right after the first big writedown, obviously, they do not know the real US economy situation... for big players like them, billion dollars, the right timing to purchase is million dollars difference.. so, they entered too early. that is a fact...
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Henry$$$ Senior	08-Mar-2008 11:23        Henry$$$ About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I am very confident with GIC and Temasek. Investment definately embeded with certain degree of risks. Can we revisit their decision in 10 year later? Then we may make an more conclusive judgement. No now please!
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teeth53 Supreme	08-Mar-2008 09:24        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My personnal tot, Termasek and GIC has gone in a little to fast and got to pay more to vest, it''s rather keen to go in like that after so call doing their sum Never has history lesson after misjudging on venturing aboard to Thai, now playing with fire. My personnal tot say wait and (NEG) that can allow more time to vest and pay less and get more share.
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jackjames Elite	08-Mar-2008 09:12        jackjames About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	buy while people are panics.. why everybody forget there is a QDII fund going to invest big in china stocks at singapore? alamak, when they say what QDII funds approved few months ago, how many billions, everybody went crazy and buy ar buy ar , buy at high price..., now, the price dirt cheap, people like loss memories, aiyooo..... how to earn big like that.. even though jim rogers bullish on china stocks, but personally, i don't like him, he is no better than just a soros, but i really respect ( and i like it)  he openly say temasek and GIC is going to lose money... who dare to say that in the public? i thought they can sue you until you bankrupt? i think normal people like u and me saying this on the newspaper, u will be in court soon, may i know why there is a difference?... i still prefer my Buffet.
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teeth53 Supreme	08-Mar-2008 09:09        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	CASH is King, keep it and warm it if one can. I am keeping my while seeing my existing stocks fall from  100% value, down to <10 % (eg: a $1/- stock now worth 10ct & a 20ct stock now worth 2ct)
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elfinchilde Elite	08-Mar-2008 00:48        elfinchilde About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	hi nono, because i'm able to track counterparty. have played yzj about 4-5 times to date. each time when i buy, it's from someone big. and in sell-down quotes (ie, large lots selling). and the dumping is too large to be just local BBs. cos count the sum of $$ that has changed hands. money flow is finite after all. you have an estimate of the regular flow of money in one counter; and if that suddenly surpasses (flies in or out), it's the surest sign of something wrong.   if they got locked in, it'd be at preferential IPO price. which i assume is 95c?   yzj, cosco, yanlord etc S share plays were the darlings of foreign funds just last year. they're massively throwing them now cos of revised estimates, plus need to raise funds back home. the comment abt china fund mgmrs: it came from the news, actually. that the managers are newbies on the scene, so the SCI drops has caught even them by surprise. essentially, china funds just came about only one, two years ago; most only know the boom. so that is relatively inexperienced. anyhow: the relevance is: because of their actions, SCI moves in a very volatile manner, which affects the region as much as the dow. so there are two, if not three weathervanes for the STI: SCI, HSI and DJIA. nikkei no longer counts, cos that's already in bear market. And HSI is affected by SCI. so it's a very linked thing. which is likely why, even when HSI goes up, STI is flat or down: global managers are locking in STI first, since we are more globally exposed, whereas HSI has the china funds to support (ie, ride your winners, lock in the uncertain market first). why i'm concerned is cos, for past 2-3 weeks already, when i track counterparties, it is no longer KH, KE, OCBC, phillips etc appearing as my counterparty: it is the global boys more and more. they're selling out s'pore. some accts can monitor global fund flow: sometimes it appears in the straits times, too. ya can see it.
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nono1975 Member	08-Mar-2008 00:02        nono1975 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	elf, pl help me to understand how u know UBS & MS are selling this stock also? on another way may be u can provide some tips(if there is), how many house also brought and got lock in and waiting to off load at which higher price? need your advice thank you.  china funds managers inexperienced? i do not think so.
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ccktsp Member	07-Mar-2008 23:40        ccktsp About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	elf, can help me understand how u know UBS & MS are selling this stock? I've online trading accts wiith DBS Vickers, Kim Eng, etc. but none can give me such info. Thanks in advance.
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elfinchilde Elite	07-Mar-2008 17:27        elfinchilde About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	china funds are new on the market. they're getting suckered by the global funds; managers are inexperienced. they behave more like retailers in that sense of herd mentality. that is why when the SCI chiongs, it really chiongs, when it crashes, it really crashes. meanwhile, the global funds would never sell unless there is a valid reason. That is for them to say. We can only guess. But the charts show the pic. Coupled this consistent offloading of stocks, and moving into gold/other metal commodities (see the gold thread: citibank has been buying gold at US$97.18): the long term signals are very clear already. of course there'd be a few tech rebounds along the way. but if you've noticed, the rebounds are getting smaller. mathematical; the picture is there already.   not so hard up? Remember UBS's AR: they lost US$4 bil, from profit of US$10bil a year ago. Solely due to the last 2Qs.
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ET88888 Member	07-Mar-2008 15:24        ET88888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	At this price, it is worth considering.  UBS & MS would not be so hard up as to use this to raise cash.  With their "ammunition", they could easily "push" it up and run later.  The current situation is all about "SENTIMENTS" brothers!!!!!!!!!  We need CHINAMEN help to make it happen.
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elfinchilde Elite	07-Mar-2008 14:54        elfinchilde About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	k. as per arbitrager's posts and my own earlier. pattern established. it isn't just local BBs playing short. UBS and MS have consistently been offloading the stock. i do not personally believe they made profits off it; i think they're doing it to raise cash. so be careful. caveat applies.
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teeth53 Supreme	07-Mar-2008 12:48        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Oop..!! sori for typing err..should read $1.20ct.
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teeth53 Supreme	07-Mar-2008 12:46        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	A brief comment here, base on Feb till mid Feb 08...A lost battle begin fought at $.120ct and a number of players either cut lost or took some kopi profit. (See the last two red arrow) www.bear-analysis.blogspot.com Source from Stupidbear blog
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teeth53 Supreme	07-Mar-2008 12:16        teeth53 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If can, Ask those Analysts, fair value is at 70 cents, renkon this price will be well support by fund concern and those vested before it price start falling and also on condition prevail. Jusy my guess oni hohh... (buy /sell or speculate), your $$$, your decision.
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