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tedsokny Senior	11-Aug-2012 08:45        tedsokny About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Have a Angkor Beer!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	true...u hv yr thots and i hv mine...dats y diff human may hv diff thots haha   warrenbegger  Elite Posted: 10-Aug-2012 23:50   x 0    x 0 Is not big fish eat small fish. Is how smart the fish r.  Big fish also got stupid one, while some small fish is very cunning and smart.  Stupid big fish can lose even more if bitten by many small cunning fish. Sometimes rich doesn't means clever, and poors doesn't means stupid :)
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ukomichi Member	11-Aug-2012 08:38        ukomichi About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	what is 9928? risktaker      ( Date: 11-Aug-2012 07:45) Posted: 9928 !!!!!
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risktaker Supreme	11-Aug-2012 07:45        risktaker About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Sometimes you think you know, but in fact you dont"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	9928 !!!!!
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iPunter Supreme	11-Aug-2012 05:13        iPunter About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	There's no clever fish or stupid fish.   Rich or not rich, all players are at the mercy of the stock market.       The stock market does not care whether one is rich or poor, smart or not smart.             The damn beast just wouldn't care a damn... It treats all and sundry alike...
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warrenbegger Elite	10-Aug-2012 23:50        warrenbegger About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood: Yells: "Anyhow Buy Anyhow Die ^_^"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Is not big fish eat small fish. Is how smart the fish r. Big fish also got stupid one, while some small fish is very cunning and smart. Stupid big fish can lose even more if bitten by many small cunning fish. Sometimes rich doesn't means clever, and poors doesn't means stupid :) tedsokny      ( Date: 10-Aug-2012 19:43) Posted: well the old saying...one's man loss is another man's gain haha...that's the name of this game...dat's y i said big fish eat small fish     iPunter  Supreme Posted: 10-Aug-2012 19:05   x 0    x 0 It because of faith and trust in 'fundamentals' in the past that many have lost their pants...     And still have not got it back...    tedsokny           ( Date: 10-Aug-2012 18:58) Posted:  anyway to me bull run is close both eyes pick any counter oso up 1 only more or less, no nd care abt coy fundamental like the gd old days...this is my personal view and i only graduated from Uni of BTC...bo tak chet
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TradeChancellor Veteran	10-Aug-2012 23:50        TradeChancellor About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	http://www.global-rates.com/interest-rates/central-banks/central-banks.aspx If anyone wish to trade FOREX and capitalise on carry trades, or simply want to have a feel of what other countries interest rates are like,  the above webiste has got interest rates of 25 major banks...
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TradeChancellor Veteran	10-Aug-2012 23:11        TradeChancellor About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	DOW's a little red now...13130. STI has closed pretty flat but still above 20ma. 20ma is still 100ma and 100ma above 200ma. STI's health still stable
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Jollibee3 Member	10-Aug-2012 22:44        Jollibee3 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	DOW go green...  alexchia01      ( Date: 10-Aug-2012 21:32) Posted: Short DOW.
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alexchia01 Elite	10-Aug-2012 21:32        alexchia01 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "Catch The Stars And Ride With Them"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Short DOW.
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tedsokny Senior	10-Aug-2012 20:55        tedsokny About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Have a Angkor Beer!"
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	big fish lose more cos bigger fish eat them lo haha   iPunter  Supreme Posted: 10-Aug-2012 20:21   x 0    x 0 Not really...  Big fishes can lose more.    Let's say a stock drops like sheet with low volume, which means that big fishes are not not buying it back up.       We often see it happening... ie stocks drop like sheet on relatively low volume.                In such cases, since the big fishe are not buying it up, they also suffer the                    big losses if they happen to be holding on, while the trend continues with low volume...       tedsokny           ( Date: 10-Aug-2012 19:43) Posted:  well the old saying...one's man loss is another man's gain haha...that's the name of this game...dat's y i said big fish eat small fish     iPunter    Supreme Posted: 10-Aug-2012 19:05   x 0      x 0 It because of faith and trust in 'fundamentals' in the past that many have lost their pants...     And still have not got it back...        tedsokny             ( Date: 10-Aug-2012 18:58) Posted:    anyway to me bull run is close both eyes pick any counter oso up 1 only more or less, no nd care abt coy fundamental like the gd old days...this is my personal view and i only graduated from Uni of BTC...bo tak chet
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iPunter Supreme	10-Aug-2012 20:21        iPunter About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Not really...  Big fishes can lose more.   Let's say a stock drops like sheet with low volume, which means that big fishes are not not buying it back up.       We often see it happening... ie stocks drop like sheet on relatively low volume.               In such cases, since the big fishe are not buying it up, they also suffer the                   big losses if they happen to be holding on, while the trend continues with low volume...   tedsokny      ( Date: 10-Aug-2012 19:43) Posted: well the old saying...one's man loss is another man's gain haha...that's the name of this game...dat's y i said big fish eat small fish     iPunter  Supreme Posted: 10-Aug-2012 19:05   x 0    x 0 It because of faith and trust in 'fundamentals' in the past that many have lost their pants...     And still have not got it back...    tedsokny           ( Date: 10-Aug-2012 18:58) Posted:  anyway to me bull run is close both eyes pick any counter oso up 1 only more or less, no nd care abt coy fundamental like the gd old days...this is my personal view and i only graduated from Uni of BTC...bo tak chet
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tedsokny Senior	10-Aug-2012 20:06        tedsokny About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Have a Angkor Beer!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Gluskin Sheff's David Rosenberg: The Four Horsemen We have identified four major downside risks for US growth over the next four quarters:     1. More adverse news out of Europe Sorry but the situation in the euro area remains highly unstable and the fact that financial markets gyrate so violently with every passing comment from Mario Draghi says something about the manic mindset of today’s algorithm-dominated fast-money backdrop. Never mind that the ESM isn’t even up and running yet, didn’t you know that the scuttlebutt is that it will be granted a banking license, suck off the ECB’s teat, and save the (failed) eurozone experiment. This is actually beyond the ECB’s purview and in the final analysis this will be a political decision. Every German knows what happened in the 1930s and anyone with a keen sense of history knows that Germany is never going to vote for outright debt monetization. What one can reasonably expect at some point is a partial fragmentation of the nonsensical monetary union. As the FT so aptly put it yesterday: The reason however, that the eurozone issue is such a challenge to the markets is because it is ultimately a political issue, whose outcome carries both serious short term risks and profound long-term consequences — none of which plays to professional investors' traditional strengths, or particularly suits their preferred methods of analysis. No wonder everyone is praying that one way or another it will be over soon. Well, maybe we should pray and prepare for the inevitable — see US. Banks Prepare For Euro Break on page 13 of yesterday's FT and also dig up and have a look at U.S. Banks Haunted By Specter of Eurozone on page 15. But here is the real kiss of death —Rome Has No Flans for Cash Request on page 4. From the sublime to the ridiculous. The article states that: Italian policy makers have sought to assure financial markets that Italy is in good shape and has no intention of making an early request for intervention by eurozone bailout funds at least not unless Spain goes first We're supposed to find encouragement from that, especially those last seven words? And didn't Spain tell everyone loudly three months ago that it too would not be in any need of external financial intervention?   2. The sharp run-up in food prices The U.S. Is a massive food producer on a global scale and as such plays a key role in influencing prices in the world market It is going through its worst drought in at least five decades — over half the counties (1,584) across 32 states are considered to be in a condition of agricultural disaster. As we saw with Arab Spring last year rampant food inflation was one of the principal reasons for the tensions. Moreover, in the USA . it was the jump in the deflator that caused the decay in real spending that almost caused the economy to stall out completely in the first quarter —just a few months after the Fed launched its QE2 that supposedly was going to underpin a lift-off for growth. Many experts are saying corn is likely heading above $10 a bushel based on extremely tight supplies. The big question is whether enough or any rain comes ()Li r way by Labour Day to prevent a similar surge in soybean prices which would then have dire effects on the entire food system, both in the U.S. and abroad (as the Economist points out, a failed soy harvest in the states could prompt Asian countries to impose rice-export bans as they did in 2007-2008).   3. Negative export shock Europe's recession is deepening and spreading. Beyond the monetary union too. So far in its reporting season, U.K. corporate profits are down a whopping 16% on a YoY basis and in the past three months. Q3 EPS estimates have been trimmed by 6.3 percentage points. The Mils in core Europe are showing further contraction in industrial activity. This is why one of the big pieces of data last week was the plunge in the ISM export orders index from 47.5 to 46.5 in .July, to stand at its weakest level since the depths of the last global downturn in April 2009. 4. The proverbial fiscal cliff The front page of the weekend NYT ran with a front page article (Partisan Impasse Drives Industry to Cut Spending) showing that even the preparation for fiscal retrenchment next year is causing a slowdown in economic activity this year. A CEO of an industrial machinery company based in the Midwest said " we're in economic purgatory. In the nondefense, non-government sectors, that's where the caution is creeping in. Were seeing it when we talk to dealers, distributors and users" . A just-completed Morgan Stanley survey concluded that over 40% of companies polled have cited the " fiscal cliff" as " a major reason for their spending restraint" , And as we saw with Friday's payroll data, the household sector is raising its savings rate at a time when rising unemployment is pinching nominal wages. and the run-up in food costs is about to trigger a reversal in real incomes. Recessionary pressures are building, and at a time when the pace of U.S. economic activity has precious little cushion. Very deflationary situation and in particular tough on retailers. For one example, see the article in the USA Today titled Back to School Promotions Aren't Limited to School Supplies. You'll catch my drift after you read about what's being discounted.
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tedsokny Senior	10-Aug-2012 19:43        tedsokny About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Have a Angkor Beer!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	well the old saying...one's man loss is another man's gain haha...that's the name of this game...dat's y i said big fish eat small fish     iPunter  Supreme Posted: 10-Aug-2012 19:05   x 0    x 0 It because of faith and trust in 'fundamentals' in the past that many have lost their pants...     And still have not got it back...    tedsokny           ( Date: 10-Aug-2012 18:58) Posted:  anyway to me bull run is close both eyes pick any counter oso up 1 only more or less, no nd care abt coy fundamental like the gd old days...this is my personal view and i only graduated from Uni of BTC...bo tak chet
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iPunter Supreme	10-Aug-2012 19:05        iPunter About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It because of faith and trust in 'fundamentals' in the past that many have lost their pants...     And still have not got it back... tedsokny      ( Date: 10-Aug-2012 18:58) Posted: anyway to me bull run is close both eyes pick any counter oso up 1 only more or less, no nd care abt coy fundamental like the gd old days...this is my personal view and i only graduated from Uni of BTC...bo tak chet
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tedsokny Senior	10-Aug-2012 18:58        tedsokny About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Have a Angkor Beer!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	anyway to me bull run is close both eyes pick any counter oso up 1 only more or less, no nd care abt coy fundamental like the gd old days...this is my personal view and i only graduated from Uni of BTC...bo tak chet
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tedsokny Senior	10-Aug-2012 18:40        tedsokny About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Have a Angkor Beer!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agreed! I argued with a fren - he's a asian french guy...told him eurozone is shit, euro will dip. he disagree, say lots of projects, no red tapes blar blar blar...to me UK nt that smart bcos they part of EU but opt out both schegen & euro...ctys like swiss, nordics like sweden, denmark...f88king smart...they opt in to join schegen visa...so tourist hv barrier free access n contribute to their econs...no doubt UK will benefit fr hosting olympics maybe? sterling oso dip...now less den 1.95 to sgd...germany bo pian want face so gg to bear the crux of it dats y kena dwngraded...more to come...   chartreader  Member Posted: 10-Aug-2012 18:11   x 0    x 0 The euro zone is a flaw from the very beginning in my opinion :-) ... Now more and more people realized the flaw. UK is definitely smart to see this from the very beginning.
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chartreader Senior	10-Aug-2012 18:37        chartreader About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	We really need to be very scared if we're near the end of the bull market, because this usually is when the big crash comes. But before reaching the end of bull, the things I mentioned before need to happen first. At the moment we're still in the very early stage of a potential bull run. We haven't had the bull run yet, as the early stage consists mainly with the back and forth or known as " base building" by some. Some other refer to this stage as accumulation. The back and forth could be scary for some as when the market is having a healthy correction, this can mean a few hundred points dip. It is not as scary as the big crash because the intensity of the drop will not be near the magnitude of the big crash. The higher low and higher high made by STI is a good initial sign. ragmop15      ( Date: 10-Aug-2012 17:19) Posted: may i ask when will you not consider this as a bull? based on the description you have given earlier..the opposite will be true for a bear market. since 2007 till now do you think we already experienced the opposite? how to determine the bear has already ended and the bull has started? thanks chartreader      ( Date: 10-Aug-2012 17:16) Posted: Yep ... that's why I said we're in the early stage where there is a lot of " back and forth" where the market is building the base. I won't be surprise if market correct by few hundred points from where we're today. We'll only see the run after this phase is over, and it will go to overdrive mode when it's very close to the end of the run. tio bo?
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TradeChancellor Veteran	10-Aug-2012 18:30        TradeChancellor About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Trading the EUR/USD is interesting because of the EURO problem  and as such, volatility. But i would advise low leveraging when trading EURO/USD, perhaps not more than 5x leverage due to high volatility during this period.
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tedsokny Senior	10-Aug-2012 18:25        tedsokny About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Have a Angkor Beer!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Loads of analysts see usd/euro at 1.18 lvl by year end....and i think it will come...if u france, pathetic state, pte dev build house but no demand, all empty...ang mos just painting nice pix, last july euro vs sgd was 1.77 lvl, now ard 1.54. To me now not bull run...just a mini wave up...big fish eat ikan bilis, so BBs hope to bait pple like me to makan. Mrkts irrational, no reason up, so will dwn n dwn no reason oso...question is when will it happen...yes uncles, aunties sideline from equities long time (smart)...esp china mrkts...   TradeChancellor  Veteran Posted: 10-Aug-2012 18:07   x 0    x 0 To see the seriousness of the EURO problem  vis-a-vis the US, the FOREX rate seems to offer an interesting perspective. The EUR/USD  is now about $1.2274... The 6-year low is $1.1876, about 400 pips  away from that low. Taking a longer frame, the 9-year low is $1.1640, about 600+ pips away from today's price...A worsening EU economy and government ambivalence may push it towards that 6-year low, perhaps even 9-year low
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iPunter Supreme	10-Aug-2012 18:23        iPunter About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I've always used to love " Made In England" things... real quality stuff...     But this is not to say that I don't use like " Made In Germany" things, though...           Cos I think they're superb too... chartreader      ( Date: 10-Aug-2012 18:11) Posted: The euro zone is a flaw from the very beginning in my opinion :-) ... Now more and more people realized the flaw. UK is definitely smart to see this from the very beginning.  TradeChancellor      ( Date: 10-Aug-2012 18:07) Posted: To see the seriousness of the EURO problem  vis-a-vis the US, the FOREX rate seems to offer an interesting perspective. The EUR/USD  is now about $1.2274... The 6-year low is $1.1876, about 400 pips  away from that low. Taking a longer frame, the 9-year low is $1.1640, about 600+ pips away from today's price...A worsening EU economy and government ambivalence may push it towards that 6-year low, perhaps even 9-year low
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