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OCEANUS (No.1 in abalone farming): Venturing into
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CWC2929
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25-Nov-2013 19:12
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This one confirmed Best business......also confirmed managements Jia lau bee....KAYU......bo chua kang........ PUI arhhhhhh PUI....... |
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moneycow
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25-Nov-2013 10:32
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In a way and sense, you are quite right in your comment and ideas. Its a value product. It symbolized wealth and luxury. It can command good price in good times and when its in high demand like the Lunar new year time. BUT breeders, supplier of live abalone products are vulnerable to many factors. If there are little suppliers/breeders than naturally demand vs supply is more positive, it will command good and better prices. BUT unfortunately for this Oceanus, though itt looks like having good plans...huge infant abalone breeding breeding in millions................... also venture into selling seafood in their own brand restaurants like AhYat...... BUT things doesn't seems to work out too well. Restaurant business not doing too well, natural disasters cause huge damages to its breeding and facilities. Sea contamination pollution also exposed and disrupted their operation and planning. Futher , there are some other big abalone suppliers and breeders giving them stiff competitions. Overall Abalone in name sounds good. Nice to eat. BUT due to the recent happenings and its ongoing vulnerability. Its very unpredictable and can say quite insecure as no one knows whats going to hit it next. And many things are really beyond their control such as natural disaster. Pollution......... Product pricing.......etc etc... Well it rally depends in which angle we are talking about that would affect it accordingly.
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new6ie
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25-Nov-2013 10:20
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Abalone business is good business, on the marketing side. Many people eat abalones for a variety of reasons. Some for delicacies, some eat abalones as " luxurious foods" , some for the aphrodisiac quality and some for medical reasons. The only catch is the ability to run the business properly and maintain a well organized chain of proper breeding, productivity, marketing and sales for making money. So far Oceanus is doing badly because it continually faces misfortunes, whether through lack of organization, or through purpose. Funding they already have, but the burning of cash through mortality has become a nightmare for shareholders. Big stakeholders should immediately review the operation and get rid of incorrigible people at all levels,. If a leader of a nation could not lead, he must give way to new leadership. Likewise if corporate leaders could not see true direction with real eyes and senses, what are they there for? A diseased part of a limb should be treated by amputation, lest it kills the whole body.
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moneycow
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25-Nov-2013 10:04
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Its disastrous. when it was listed in Taiwan ADR............. above 20 cents - when news announced that time - goes up to almost 48 cents...................... Than eventually after many bad happenings.....plunge to below 2 cents............... Those holding at high of 47-48 cents and if still holding........... and hoping got their hoped cut short with the disastrous. Abalone breeding business in whole and out side looked in looks good sound good.............. BUT in real there are just too many unpredictability........ Lucky cut some when it hit near 20 cents...........else its another sad case. It was not meant to be - just have to accept. Cut and move on.......................(I guess) |
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MetalTrader
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24-Nov-2013 03:18
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Wish you all can have bao yu every year :) All the best & wish a better environment for growing abalones.
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CWC2929
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22-Nov-2013 20:58
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Thanks for your prediction...... Hope all huat big big coming CNY........Huattttttttttttttt arhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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MetalTrader
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22-Nov-2013 20:06
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My prediction will cease from today. Wish you all have bao yu to eat in cny :) | ||||
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Solidsnake
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22-Nov-2013 08:54
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If Oceanus got no fan chi, then we have no bao yu to chi come this CNY.
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Peter_Pan
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22-Nov-2013 07:19
Yells: "did you order dunkin' donuts" |
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oceanus kao tien chi farn | ||||
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CWC2929
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22-Nov-2013 03:07
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Aiyo sifu.......base on this you predict value to fall below $0.016........if share trading easy like what you post... i sure all nor need to work liao.........got problem good things mah........if not management jia bau liao koon zzZZzz..... |
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MetalTrader
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22-Nov-2013 01:29
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Pls note as of Sep 2013 report- Typhoon Usagi hit Guangdong, coastal Zhejiang and Fujian provinces in China where the majority of abalone production is sited. Some of the facilities in the Group's abalone farms that are located in Guangdong and Fujian provinces were damaged. The Hui Lai Farm, the Gu Lei Farm, the Fo Tan Farm and some abalone farming and production facilities, and to a lesser extent biological assets, were affected to some extent... | ||||
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MetalTrader
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22-Nov-2013 00:44
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Prediction (Oceanus) 22 Nov- I predict that Oceanus, price at $0.017, is not cheap because its losses and macro environment will likely be losses for 2013, and moving forward with harsh abalone environment due to climatic changes. The fall below $0.016 will begins, & once started will be hard to recover. This year is not a gain season, and value will expect a fall below $0.016 and further. Additional Information: Oceanus suffered RMB12.3 Million losses due to Typhoon damages, which is higher than its profits earned this year. There is also a negative net income of -113.45 Millions. http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Business-profile?s=579:SES Though its price of $0.017 looks low, but there is poor outlook for Oceanus profitability this year, and with -113.45 Millions with negative macro environments (Typhoon). The volume trading are reduced from 298 million to current 3 million within 6 months. Though there are speculative in hope for higher gains, but the revenue and rough macro environments will hinder its growth |
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Solidsnake
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21-Nov-2013 22:47
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And likely, many will forget and start buying come January, CNY. Watch this space. | ||||
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Macadangdang
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21-Nov-2013 22:43
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Who doesn't already know? Lol. Waiting for their new abalone flavoured anti-depressants' release.
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MetalTrader
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21-Nov-2013 22:36
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Oceanus suffered RMB12.3 Million losses due to Typhoon damages, which is higher than its profits earned this year. There is also a negative net income of -113.45 Millions. http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Business-profile?s=579:SES Though its price of $0.017 looks low, but there is poor outlook for Oceanus profitability this year, and with -113.45 Millions with negative macro environments (Typhoon). The volume trading are reduced from 298 million to current 3 million within 6 months. Though there are speculative in hope for higher gains, but the revenue and rough macro environments will hinder its growth. |
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WanSiTong
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20-Nov-2013 07:05
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Oceanus Group ST: short term rebound
Trading Central | 2013-11-19 01:02:00
Alternative scenario: the downside breakout of 0.016 would call for 0.013 and 0.011. Our pivot point is at 0.016. Our preference: short term rebound. Alternative scenario: the downside breakout of 0.016 would call for 0.013 and 0.011. Comment: the RSI is above 50. The MACD is negative and above its signal line. The MACD must break above its zero level to trigger further gains. Moreover, the stock is trading above its 20 day MA (0.02) but under its 50 day MA (0.02). Supports and resistances: 0.026 * 0.025 ** 0.023 0.019 last 0.017 0.016 ** 0.013 * 
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aj2invest
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18-Nov-2013 09:47
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Looks like only some sales went through earlier on. | ||||
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jxjxwin
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18-Nov-2013 09:27
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ok i loading it |
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CWC2929
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16-Nov-2013 00:09
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This one me got confident can cheong above 3.........man man lai........ |
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Peter_Pan
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16-Nov-2013 00:00
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oceanus kao tian jiak pueng | ||||
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