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Kamashare Member	27-Jan-2007 14:54        Kamashare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I am not sure whether the sand from the desert can be used for construction or not? If can, then China can get from the Gobi desrt and Singapore can get from 3rd world desert countries like Ethopia and Somalia.
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Hulumas Supreme	27-Jan-2007 13:12        Hulumas About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "INVEST but not TRADE please!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dear Readers, It is not a big deal, it is just a matter of increasing cost of material and also in some small extent cost of construction. Two main things as a measure to this plight: 1. Make lesser and lesser dependable to sand as a construction material needs. ( changing more towards steel or any other model structure other than concrete structure). 2. In some larger extent, use stone crush debris as sand replacement. Large quantity production could be locally or from Malaysia, Thailand or PRC.
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m2d4pc Member	26-Jan-2007 23:54        m2d4pc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Materials suppliers will not be affacted that much, the latest info, they have increased the price by up to 40%. They will pass the addtional cost to contractors.
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hotstock2 Member	26-Jan-2007 23:51        hotstock2 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Currently, Singapore meets more than 90% of its land sand demand from Indonesia imports of sand. To meet any temporary shortage of sand, the Singapore government will release the sand stockpile as well as source for alternative sources of sand in the region. ? With this ban, construction cost is expected to increase by 3-10%, according to the construction industry players. This costs increment is on top of what the construction industry players are already expecting - an 8-10% increase in construction costs in 2007. This latest ban will affect building material companies which employ sand as part of their raw material as well as further dampen the margins of Singapore construction companies and Singapore property developers. As China is also one of the main importers of sand from Indonesia, the PRC construction companies and property developers will also be affected by the ban. Source from Westcomb With this ban, construction cost is expected to increase by 3-10%, according to the construction industry players. This costs increment is on top of what the construction industry players are already expecting - an 8-10% increase in construction costs in 2007. This latest ban will affect building material companies which employ sand as part of their raw material as well as further dampen the margins of Singapore construction companies and Singapore property developers. As China is also one of the main importers of sand from Indonesia, the PRC construction companies and property developers will also be affected by the ban. Source from Westcomb
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m2d4pc Member	26-Jan-2007 23:41        m2d4pc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	from the info I gathered so far, the ban has nothing to do with politics. It is just simply $$$$$. They want more $$$$$$$$ that all. Indonesian have given us until 5 Feb to table a much higher offer. At the meantime, the delivery of sand from Indonesia is still on, though the ban officially started on 23 Jan. We still need Indoneisa sand, no choice as other sources are too far away and the transportation will be costly, even our import is from islands near us like Karimun and Batam, not from some far away Indonesis islands.    Don't worry, it will not affect us,  average commoners, as sand is only about 4% to 7% of the building cost. Contractors can't add the cost to us because the competition among them here is very tough. Over the past ten years we saw many materials costs sky rocketed, like steel, timber, stones but contractors dare not increase the tender prices. It will only affacted the profits of contractors, anyway they are going to make profits this year as consturction has recover, but Indoneisa government up the price will eat into their profits so we will see contractors making very tiny profits this year as other buliding materials also up the price becuase of building boom throughout Asia and Singapore is not a big market to the manufactueres. Priorty is not given to Singapore market because cannot buy in bulk quantity like China, in China one new project is easily 8000 to 20000 units because of the big population.
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iPunter Supreme	26-Jan-2007 23:21        iPunter About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, and even if we don't know much, we can help to ask around and maybe by so doing get a better insight into the problem and to post it here for our benefit. It would be good to be in the know as it can adversely affect the economy and thus the market.
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hotstock2 Member	26-Jan-2007 23:09        hotstock2 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi All, Could any one familiar with the industry comment? We can see IE was quick to calm people that the ban is of no major concern. Is this a big issue to our construction industry? I was working with a company a few years (2003) back whereby the company stops land reclamation due to the lack of sand from Indonesia. Is the ban a sudden affair or is it has been a long hidden agenda? How many % of sand were imported from Singapore? Where to get the statistics? People working on the ground, please share your experience.
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