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jeremyow
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25-May-2009 00:48
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Almost impossible for REITs to have net cash position. They pay out at least 90% of net income to REITs unitholders. So, they don't have much retained earnings to invest back to themselves to fund acquisition of new properties or for other operational uses. Because of very little retained earnings, they simply need to borrow large amounts to fund their acquistion of new properties or support their operations. This is a vicious cycle. REITs just have to keep borrowing and repaying their debts in continuous cycles. It is their operation model. Unless unitholders of REITs willingly receive much less distribution can a REIT retain more earnings to be used to repay debts and fund its growth to help ease their amount of debts/liabilities. Then again, if this is so, wouldn't it be better for an investor instead to buy actual properties and derive more rental income at higher rate rather than investing in REITs at significantly low distribution yield?
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jeremyow
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25-May-2009 00:09
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Nope. This REIT gives distribution every half-yearly.
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jeremyow
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24-May-2009 23:51
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Hi, I think you may have misinterpreted my earlier post. To make things clearer, I have extracted out all the dates from the press release by CapitaComm Trust regarding the rights issue. Event Date and Time Last day of “cum-rights” trading for the Rights Issue: Tuesday, 2 June 2009 First day of “ex-rights” trading for the Rights Issue: Wednesday, 3 June 2009 Rights Issue Books Closure Date : Friday, 5 June 2009 at 5.00 p.m. Despatch of the Offer Information Statement to Eligible Unitholders: Wednesday, 10 June 2009 Commencement of “nil-paid” rights trading : Wednesday, 10 June 2009 from 9.00 a.m. Last date and time for “nil-paid” rights trading : Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 5.00 p.m. Last date and time for splitting “nil-paid” rights : Thursday, 18 June 2009 at 5.00 p.m. Closing Date: Last date and time for acceptance of and payment for Rights Units : Wednesday, 24 June 2009 at 5.00 p.m. (1)(9.30 p.m. for electronic applications) Last date and time for application of and payment for Excess Rights Units : Wednesday, 24 June 2009 at 5.00 p.m. (1)(9.30 p.m. for electronic applications) Last date and time for acceptance of and payment by the renouncee : Wednesday, 24 June 2009 at 5.00 p.m. Expected date for issue of Rights Units : Thursday, 2 July 2009 Expected date for commencement of trading of Rights Units : Friday, 3 July 2009
I will try to explain my point from the important dates in bold. To a new investor who does not own CCT units. He can buy CCT units before the Ex-Right date (meaning he must buy CCT main units before 3 June 09) to have the rights entitlement (1-for-1). New investors that missed buying the CCT main units before 3 June 09 missed getting the rights entitlement. Rights entitlement does not automatically means he has the rights units. He must still pay $0.59 per unit later on to subscribe for the rights units. This is the first way for a new investor to get rights entitlement and later pay to subscribe for the rights units at $0.59 per unit. Upon entry into the "nil-paid" rights trading period (10 June to 18 June), this is the period whereby the rights entitlement are traded at a certain listed price on a separate trading counter (usually by name of CCT R or some other name). Main CCT unit holders who owns the rights entitlement (because they held their units to the Ex-rights date earlier) but does not want the rights units eventually, may sell off their rights entitlement depending on the price of this rights entitlement counter (possibly counter name CCT R) traded for. Now, new investors who missed buying the main CCT units before the earlier Ex-rights date (before 3 June) have this second chance to buy the rights entitlement at the price traded for in this separate counter. This is what I meant by the second way to buy into the rights entitlement without buying the main CCT units initially at all. Then, comes the last phase (acceptance and payment to subscribe for the rights units at $0.59 per unit). This has to be done through ATMs or other electronic means by the due date 24 June 5pm. Only investors who have secured the rights entitlement either through owning main CCT units until it goes ex-rights date or buying and holding onto the rights entitlement after the "nil-paid" rights trading period has ended (after 18 June) can go through this last phase of subscription for rights units. So, in conclusion, there is still two possible ways for new investors without CCT main units to get the rights entitlement and eventually subscribe for the rights units. First way is by buying and holding main CCT units until Ex-Rights (buy before 3 June and hold until 3 June). Second way is to buy the rights entitlement from the separate trading counter (e.g. CCT R) during 10 June to 18 June. Of course, this second way means an investor ends up eventually paying more than $0.59 per rights units after factoring in the price he also pays to get the rights entitlement during 10 June to 18 June. So, the ball is in the investor's court (first way or second way). Just don't pay too much in this whole "hoo ha" to acquire the rights units eventually.
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Eagles
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24-May-2009 22:10
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Wow, you speak as if you know the funds intimately, verdict will be out tomorrow.
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dealer0168
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24-May-2009 20:32
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How u know alot of funds have them n have no intention to suscribe. Can elaborate more? Thanks.
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soloman
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24-May-2009 18:49
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If I am not wrong, there are approx 1.4 B CCT shares Alot the the funds have them and they are not suscribing ,,,, There will be a lot of selling |
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Eagles
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24-May-2009 18:10
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Its not so simple: You msut consider also: 1) Peers (other reit) valuation; 2) Interest savings after repaying substantial loans, will increase profit/distrinution and not a simple profit/2, should be (current profit plus interest savings)/2; 3) Financial risk profile before and after rights - risk/returns ratio used by funs on overall portfolio mgt; 4) Opportunity of returns after rights versus same class of low risk assets instruments (FDs, other reits)
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Moneysense
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24-May-2009 17:53
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Just wonder. Can a reit fully pays their debt/liability? If that is possible, unitholders will receive their dividends without any worries/risks. | ||||
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dealer0168
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24-May-2009 15:41
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Thanks fr the info. Hi btw, does this baby give diividend every quarter like Suntec REIT. Last time still can check at SGX, but now cannot find dividend history fr there (frankly speaking abit quite disappointed with the changes made at the SGX website.)
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stockseeker
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24-May-2009 11:56
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I think you have entirely misconstrued - or at least misinterpret - to the audience here what rights issue is all about. Firstly, the rights counter will only be in effect on SG Exchange sometime after the rights cut off date (Ex-CR). So, you can't buy into a 'rights' counter when a rights issue is taking place. Hence, investors who wants the rights entitlement will HAVE TO subcribe to this entitlement by buying into its main counter (CCT) first. Secondly, when the rights cut-off date takes into effect, the unit owner of CCT's main counter automatically is entitled to the rights at $0.59 per piece. No More, No Less. He/she then has to decided whether to subscribe to those rights - via an ATM counter (or other means). Else he can choose to sell his rights entitlement on SGX when the rights counter is launched. This all has to be done before the cut-off date of subscribing to the rights. Also, when the rights counter is launched, the prices between the main and rights counter reflects comparatively similar $ value(s). Mainly, through averaging the main counter's prices and the rights price. Hence, as you can see from the above the rights issue is a multi-prong process and you can't simply buy into the rights counter. Hence, whatever theory about paying more or less doesn't make much sense.
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soloman
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24-May-2009 11:43
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1 for 1 means dilution is great, and DPU dilution is great too Simple : That means probabilty of price going below 59 cts is great also Simple : That means shortists has smelled blood ... rare chance these days for them to strike |
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E-war
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24-May-2009 03:10
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BB will have a field day come Mon... | ||||
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jeremyow
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24-May-2009 01:26
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If I'm not wrong, there will be a separate counter for trading the CCT rights entitlement. 2 ways to get the rights units for new investors without CCT main units:- Either buy the CCT main units to get the rights entitlement (1-for-1) OR buy the rights entitlement from the separate trading counter. If the CCT main units is priced too much higher than $0.59 per unit, one may need to consider whether it is worthwhile to buy the main units in order to get the rights entitlement. However, if the separate trading counter price for the rights entitlement is priced too high, one also need to consider whether is it worthwhile to pay too much for the rights entitlement to the rights units.
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jeremyow
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24-May-2009 01:10
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Agree on that.......Hope the DPU will not depreciate too much even after factoring in the rights units since the rights issue will dilute unitholders' DPU.......
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dealer0168
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23-May-2009 22:24
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For this baby RIGHT share that we are buying, will we be trading it at main CCT counter? Or there will be a CCT R counter that we will be trading. Anyone can provide me the info. Thanks. | ||||
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Eagles
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23-May-2009 18:23
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Rights proceeds will be used to repay loans, meaning interest expenses down significantly, divident/distribution will improve, and financial risk reduced. This is a plus point for this REIT. | ||||
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jeremyow
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23-May-2009 15:34
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CCT is the largest office real estate investment trust in Singapore. It also have part ownership in office properties in Malaysia. I think it can be considered as a blue chip as its total assests is quite large. However, the only risk is the large amount of debts that needs to be refinanced and sitting on large amounts of debts does not sound good. This is the big risk an investor has to absorb when investing in REITs. However, the reward is the high payout in distribution income to investors (some REITs are already having 10% or more distribution yield based on current prices). The good thing about investing in REITs is that an investor can quickly liquidate his holdings should he wants to. For example, investors who don't want to keep CCT units after annoucement of rights issue can sell off their units easily. This is better than buying actual properties whereby an investor may be stuck with the property if he cannot find a buyer when he is about to sell the property. Also, an investor needs to cough out substantial cash or get loans for buying property (easily $150 K and above). However, the amount of capital to invest in property counters or REITs is soley up to the investor's wish. If he has more money, he buys more shares or units. If he has less money, he buys lesser.
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jeremyow
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23-May-2009 15:14
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Hi, this is just my estimate. I think they mentioned in their press release that the adjusted DPU based on $0.59 per rights unit is around 5.91 cents. This represents a distribution yield of 10% currently if one gets the rights units. So, if an investor does not currently hold any CCT units and only want to subscribe for its rights units at $0.59 per unit, he will get around 5.91 cents DPU (~10% yield even after factoring in all rights units into the CCT units) for FY 2009. If an investor already owns CCT units and even subscribe into more rights units, the distribution yield for him will be definitely less than 10% for FY 2009 (since his original CCT units would have been bought at higher price than $0.59 per unit). So, it is up to an investor to decide whether subscribing for rights units is worthwhile? For new investors, he will definitely get at least close to 10% distribution yield getting the rights entitlement and rights units at $0.59/ unit and later convert into CCT units. This is better than leaving money in the bank or fixed deposits. For existing CCT unit holders, if he has units of average unit price that is too high (e.g. more than $1/ unit), then factoring in the rights units will reduce his distribution yield significantly (significantly less than 10% yield). Even if he subscribes to the rights units, his distribution yield will still be lower than 10% for FY 2009. So, for existing unit holders if they don't want to see their distribution yield depreciate too much by the rights units issue, they need to subscribe for the rights units. However, then again, they need to consider carefully whether they have other better investments to deploy their money into that give more attractive returns (more than 10% returns annually) than subscribing for CCT rights units.
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dealer0168
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23-May-2009 14:36
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Is this baby a blue chip. Anyone can help clarify?? | ||||
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Moneysense
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23-May-2009 12:34
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Wonder what is DPU annually after rights? Anybody can advise. | ||||
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