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12-Sep-2011 09:36

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Only Buy Genting SP, q at 1.63..see my luck today

only bearish ppl like to buy in a bull, they feel more comfortable to buy high. and sell today low.

i like buying when all here are bearish, and said..no one really know...so on and on..

these ppl don't buy stock, they buy news..and they are the real one who hold COSCO fr $8 , DBS from $28..and still holding and shouting all over.

what a sad case!!!!

buy Genting SP on dip.

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12-Sep-2011 01:49

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Can you kindly share with us how to tell a rally is coming?

because you say got a supa rally, next month buy also not late, and u( andrey) more pros then me....

so you must have some ideas as how to tell the sign of impending rally is coming, kindly share with us..otherwise, you may be buying into a bear trap..isn't it?

and i will share with you how to see the signs of a supa rally in the making long before it come.

To say CB Ben control the mkt and cause a rally is wrong, the mkt control Ben, he adjust rate according to what mkt dictate him to...in this case, to near zero for another 2 yrs.

he can print money, but he cannot force ppl to borrow. He just sweeten the deal only by lowing rate, and hope ppl borrow to expanse business to generate demand.

but consumer is not convince of the economy, they are not borrowing, and in fact businesses are cutting jobs and cut back, hold back expansion becos of mkt turmoil.

you read recent bank are cutting jobs.

so BB go and borrow, carry trade and speculate on mkt all over the world and create even greater havoc.

fair value of oil according to expert is $60 at today economic condition, but it is 86.!!! why???.becos BB is all over ..

warrenbegger ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 01:03) Posted:

See!!!

How cute and How Happy U are :)

Cheers!!!

I must pray to U, U even more pros than me, and even mighty god, can see market trend so far until next year ah?

Market is always ever changing, U never know what will happen next. Like a stock crash, bang!!! It just come, no one know when it will comes.

If really got a super strong rally, next month buy also not too late. At least wont kanna trap during this uncertain bad times. U must know what time to start betting :)

And i know U putting all bets on Botak Ben, maybe only him can let this rotten market rally for short term liao. But thats pure speculation, is a big bet and big risk too.

andreytan ( Date: 09-Sep-2011 14:10) Posted:

This is going to led to a super strong rally, and dow 13200 is a affirmative by yr end.

buy now!!!! beyond that i can only see higher dow.

by middle of next yr..

as such, i will void all my bearish view for next yr.

you will be too happy for sure.. and i am now more than ever confident that rally is a sure thing.

i am too excited now!!!! Smiley

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12-Sep-2011 01:00

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I never ever get stuck in any counter becos i cut fast.

even though right now i am convince on the rally, i have ask ppl to cut loss at 12 to 14% for short term till christmas.

if a rally materialise, i am sure it will, you win big, your couters will go up 50% to 100%, but if bear takover then you losse small 12 to 145 for short term not trade.

But i cannot take losses,..... then don't buy stock, if u cannot take small losses.

Right now , i believe we will see a new low, and as it get there the positive divergence can only get stronger .

However,if mkt decline to a new low,during the next turn window, it could result in a sustainable rally based on the positive divergences in the technical indicaters, in that case rally from Oct 2011 to Dec 2011.

next turn window will be 20/9..we will know very soon.

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12-Sep-2011 00:34

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DBS a solid blue chip...but if you have bought DBS at $28. or even 20

you are still sitting on big losses!!! even with all the div pay out from the day u bought the counter, i dont think you can see your money back,

so the consolation is ,,, someone the other day say..." i have take a long term view" .

this is wrong, saying you are a long term invester is self consolation...self comfort....when you buy a stock and you are proven wrong on entry, you must cut lose fast.

the mkt since 2000 till nw is not longer for long term investemnt..you go see the chart..

in this case , your money is forever capture in this counter is equal to opportunity miss somewhere.

when mkt present you a rally later to make money, you got no capital to buy, because you did protect your capital with a stop loss at first.

CUT LOSSES FAST AND NEVER EVER AVERAGE DOWN,

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12-Sep-2011 00:22

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Why cut your lose early is the way?

let me tell you a real case, i have a friend who bought this counter at 4 plus and it went to 8 ..but he did not take profit.

he became greedy, and was looking at tg px 10..then it went reverse till today 1 plus...and to make thing worse, he average down,

catch a falling knife.

instead of big profit, now sitting on hugh losses..

3 leeson here,,

1) never be too greedy, if mkt can give you 100% within a short period, the god is smiling at you..take profit and wait for another opportunity.

mkt is always there.

2) never , never average down, you can only average up on a uptrend stock.

3) what go down must come up and what go up must come down???not true,,, some stock go down and stay there or worse disappear from the SGX.

now you tell me, when will COSCO go back to $8!!!!!!!!!!!

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12-Sep-2011 00:05

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Right now smart money is in Genting SP, and i have strong reason to believe that the play is far from over.

Mkt is rule by BB, if they left, game is over. , we retailor got no big war chest like them. Only they can push the mkt.

now the uptrend is strong..and i believe if they stop they will lose. so they will push till 1.87 the most.

good luck to all

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11-Sep-2011 22:32

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when i say 1.87..it is my sys is show me the potential tg px...but how high it will go, nobody know.

so u let your profit run and let your trailing stop decide the profit for you.

actually, when 1.5X i was wanting to make a call here, but i wasn, t so sure,

so you may lose money, but now i am sure...go and buy.

andreytan ( Date: 11-Sep-2011 22:27) Posted:

But earlier i call to buy Genting SP, this one i am 80% sure.

it will hit 1.87 week to come..

so buy some,

now, the most headache part...how to take profit???

simple, majority will put a trailing stop , let the proift run,

when i said 1.87,, is that my sys show me...so let say, u are willing to take 5% less profit..so when 1.87 hit and the px go down 5% from 1.87, that is 1.78..u take your profit and run.

don't see it go up.very shiok and only to see it go down as fast...till no profit to see...got it.

dont fall in love with it..it is a stock only....go fall in love with your love one.

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11-Sep-2011 22:27

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11-Sep-2011 22:18

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Now what i am going to post is too common to many, but it is good for so call newbies.

If u got 20K to buy stock, how u go abt doing it?

say u like to buy A at 2.0 ..so 20K can buy 10 lots , right? 2000x 10lots.

Andrey say A can hit 2.78..faster buy 20 lots,, mau big, like ipunter say.

no,,this is not the way, what if now A go to 1.8..wah ..now i lose 2K..emotion takeover immedaitely,, go to the forum and scold Andrey.,now how, want to cut or not???..hold..

then dow drop 400pts,the nextr day..,wah jiat lat ...nw it is 1.6..that is 25% down!!!

if you do like above, you died faster.

U are only allow to risk 1% of the 20K u got...that is $200

so now you set the stop limit,, say cut at 1.9..you lost $100..

in this case, you are to buy only 2 lots.,beocs 2 lots bought at 2.0...one lot lose $100, so 2 lots $200.

if you do this,,,it take 100 trade before you are out.

and if you enter properly, with good knowledge,, risk/reward ratio, throw in your TA, and for me my method, sys, .

you are 70% to 80% sure, you buy..if not , then wait patient for opportunity, not anyyhow mau...like casino..

if you do so properly, you find you are mostly right.

but u say 2 lots how to make big buck, but at least now, you are not so emotional attach..becos you put 1% to risk.

you got it...

Rome is not buit in 1 days..if you want to win 20K if u put 20K it is possible...how?

1) if there is a supa bullish mkt..you can anyhow buy big and sell higher... one in a long time.,,but this i think one is coming soon,,

2) go RWS or Marina bay sand...but you will end up broke, that is for sure.

so depend on your emotion and risk appetite...if u feel comfortable with 2% lost of 20K,,then u buy 4 lots. and double your win.

mun , mun lai, mai luan luan mau...hokkien say. ..you are in stock not in casino.

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11-Sep-2011 21:52

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No wonder 90% of you lose money here.

Just look at the way you post testify to you all been too emotional

If you let emotion control you, you have already lose, even before you start.

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11-Sep-2011 13:32

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OK , got to go,

Remember to Buy Genting S all the way up........tg px 1.87!!!! week to come.

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11-Sep-2011 13:30

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Can anyone tell me how long have this euro problem been ard??? most dont know right?? and you say i follow news.

some 18 mths.???

imagine the rally coming, imagine a rubber pull back for 18 mths when let losse will be like what???

spectacular rally of course!!!! and i expect another equal period of rally, yes 12 to 18 mth of rally,

dont follow news, follow smart money and datas...news are outdated

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11-Sep-2011 13:25

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No worry, RachelS, try not to spaeak for me, otherwsie ppl think we gang up to put a scam here,

I think you are doing the right thing.

But since you long for the short term till christmas,, you still must have a stop lose of most preferably 12 to 14%,,

i am sure if not major event come, you will be happy.and i am still very sure that euro will not crack till 2012.

And just to share with you, according to reliable source, Hedge fund are secretly buying on dip.

Paulson and Dalio are buying on every mkt dip, they dont buy big to let the world know, they want to buy cheap and slowly

and then sell to those who turn bullish later here..at this forum..thoise who change with the mkt., not against the mkt.

why??? why are they buying???we know the resasons, we shd follow the smart money..they are the smart money.

RachelG ( Date: 11-Sep-2011 13:02) Posted:

We shouldn't blame Andreytan. Even Hedge Fund managers are losing money now. I am sure he is just trying to give us some hope and share his insight. I listened to him and decided against selling my share while i have the chance to. It is my choice and if I lose money, it is still my fault not his.

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11-Sep-2011 13:15

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It is normal, you lose you dont blame yourself, nobody do that. (99%)

if they blame themselves, they will never lose money. and really reflect on their mistake, and make change going forward.

the fact that we lose money is becos we stubbornly stay with our method and thinking and refuse to change., ego

and put the blame on others for consolation and release our anger on them,

we dont want to cut when stop limit hit. stay and hope that the game will come back., which are always against us

thanks for your comfort,,,i can live with this, it is normal.

i am easy, i welcome both good and bad ..

i hope RachelG..you buy some Genting come Monday.

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11-Sep-2011 13:06

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one stock to share.

Genting S will hit 1.87 in week to come. now 1.7... base on fundamental,,,and sentiment are strong.

i am 80% sure you make money in this one i share here. Just to help you recover your lose.

The dollar eill strengthen and dow will rally strong in week to come., most likely in the turn date on 20/9

happen to be fomc, positive divergence are stronger than ever.

you can don't buy first, wait till rally is affirmative before you buy in also not late...buy high sell higher..

can you lose??? don't tell me you lose.

Genting will make your day....and i already in the big profit,

those who bought, buy your way up.

i think most likely this counter will be resilent and decouple from the mkt tomolo..if dip buy on dip

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11-Sep-2011 12:50

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Did not i told you nothing is 100% sure.Isn't 70% is good enough.

And i don tlet a 330 pts drop change my prediction overniote,like you guy do here.

300 pts dorp, tunrn bear, 300 pts up, u turn bull, one left one right , you are sure to lose money. in this manner.

we dont bet blindly, and you shd have a stop loss in place.

if you got no plan, you lose in the first place. you must have an exit plan, postion sizing.

yes, nobody can know mkt next move, but with data with can be 70% sure,nobody is god here.

did u not read my past post.

AND I WILL STILL SAID THAT RALLY IS COMING...80% SURE., JUST WATCH, UNLESS A MAJOR PUT ME OUT.

I DONT THINK EURO WILL TANK NW TILL YR END.

i believe major event most likely to happeN in 2012.late 2012 or early 2013.

NO RECESSION NOW TILL YR END.

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10-Sep-2011 00:36

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OK , since you ppl are so sensitive and work out so easily on mkt drop.

Only those interested .pls message me. I will share with you the stock i am buying and you can share with me the stock you are buying.

and mkt happening..

only thro message, not over here.

thanks in advance for sharing.

sorry for all my post for you guys who feel offended.

i will not post here anymore.

my apolgy for the last time.

just see my rally materialise..

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10-Sep-2011 00:30

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I respect your view, you just sit it out, dont buy , wait till rally then buy, got it.

Salute ( Date: 10-Sep-2011 00:26) Posted:

unfortunately these are the people(BB) who made people believe in them and influence the stock market nowadays. asking one or two not to believe is not enough to change the psychology of the majority, nowadays when selling come, it's sliding smoothly and fierce

Now oil is $86, so have to wait for the oil to go back up $90 right. this is the only time that gold stop rising while Dow index drop. I guess the money instead of flowing into the stocks go into US$ play.

what goes down would come up but just don't know when.

now Dow down > 300, hope it will shrink or Monday won't be too auspicious.(may be haunted by the anniversary of 911).

all the recent speeches were not auspicious too. 2/8, yesterday's..........will the one on 20th a good one.?

andreytan ( Date: 09-Sep-2011 22:44) Posted:

There is a famous saying.." if did not read news , you are not inform, if you read new you are misinform"

If you read,, you must know who is in the news..ppl like George Soro, Mar Faber, WB or the like.

these are BB who got interest in the mkt , so they will tell you the news which are favourable to their investement.

so you got to take them with a pinch of salt...dont be taken for a ride by them.

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10-Sep-2011 00:27

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I said you buy only when the rally is on, did you read my early post

so how can you lose? in a rally???

Did you lose so fast???

buy only when rally is here, got it, so Monday u can short for me to buy cheap, thanks

dont be so work out..one drop does not means rally is a gone case.

so u guy just dont buy, stay side and wait it out,

I am buying on Monday, any objection???anyway my money to lose? right? any problem

dont buy first, if you are scare becos of drop.

I did not force you to buy, or enforce you to buy.

For the last time, for those doubtful , just wait for rally , then buy???got it??? i am thirsty talking to you ppl

warrenbegger ( Date: 10-Sep-2011 00:12) Posted:

I am a mentor to my friends around.

My data show strong bear still had upperhand VS dying bull.

I advised all my friends to stay out of market first and wait for chance.

If wants to play short term speculator rally, need good timing and odds first. Dont just anyhow load and kanna whack.

For short, U r 50/50 during this times before the Aces is gone. When Aces use up, i think bull is readly on table liao. Unless white angel appear :)

Always expect the unexpected.

andreytan ( Date: 09-Sep-2011 14:14) Posted:

no, i dont do fortune telling, i dont believe in fungshui, and fortune telling.

call those so call master to believe it themselves.

if those thing can work, they will not be call master, they can call themselves angel or prophet or God..their choice.

I believe in my datas and my memtors

the last time when all this happen it was in April 09...

you believe or not, does not matter.

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09-Sep-2011 22:57

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so long we do not go to new low, rally is still on.

no worry,you buy high and sell higher, need not buy now,

but i like to buy cheap, so i take risk here, high risk , high gain, right???

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