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26-Aug-2011 16:50

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lol, who says i am not newbie haha..
and if you are in a forum, no need to so emo.. :)

casino ( Date: 26-Aug-2011 16:31) Posted:

yaya papaya,u never newbie before? Another talk cock sing song.

medivh ( Date: 26-Aug-2011 16:21) Posted:

There is a surge of newbies (new forummers) coming in..
This is a tell-tale sign they have nothing better to do... or ..
They lost so much already and looking for other avenues for advice..
This is one time, where attending courses is the best.. use the time to educate yourself.. (" ,)

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26-Aug-2011 16:21

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26-Aug-2011 16:11

Others / waiting for stock mkt to crash big big!!

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Why wait? If you don't dare to place a bet now, what makes you think you will place a bet when its lower?
The ones who make money don't wait for things to happen....
They make things happen... And thats why so few are making and so many are losing ...

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26-Aug-2011 10:39

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The imminent danger here is 1 word.

STAGFLATION. No economic growth and rise in prices.

This is a fact that we have seen in the past 2 years.. If that happen, then the result will be dire.. no point keep printing money, QE3 ,4 or 10..
if one part of the body fails.. the rest will feel the pain as well.

Trade wisely.

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24-Aug-2011 23:53

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If on the streets you happen to shout " SIAO market" .. people may think its " SELL market" , and they may listen..

But one thing is for sure, we are starting to see a lot of new forummers emerge here ...

They are starting to be indifferent and baffled why things are like dat..

and also nowadays, more people are happier with NATO... hehehe!

warrenbegger ( Date: 24-Aug-2011 23:41) Posted:

Thats why i calling it a

Siao Market :)

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23-Aug-2011 21:38

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(" ,) i share your sentiments..
Sometimes in these type of volatile market, people start to have " split personalities"
Maybe cause they buy both put and call warrants.. either way also win .. (cause they can't lose.. only win..)

Ignorance is bliss~~

rotijai ( Date: 23-Aug-2011 18:18) Posted:

sometimes i am quite confused by his comment..

may be we got 2 andreytan here?

@_@

andreytan ( Date: 23-Aug-2011 00:46) Posted:

if you remember those who panic and sell in the beginning of the crises in 2008, will the one who have the less heartache.

if this round you have do the same, today you lose less, but now till not late,

if 25% down , still ok, but if you delay, then the lose will be realise.

for if 1.0 become 35c..you got to have a 185% .just to even.

and that is possible if recession, this rd will be deep recession, make it even more possible,

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23-Aug-2011 21:33

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hehee.. I trying to play my part too .. give warning signs already.. ppl still wan to cheong and die .. what to do ?
To make this very blatant... this is just a technical rebound.. its not a long shot for bull run yet..

Forummer A usually say ... its clear its cloudy...

Forummer B usually say .. Bull short, cow short, bear short, xianglongshibazhang short, ah gong short etc.

Forummer C usually say ... people like to " mau" big big,
cause they " gian" big big..
after that the hole in the pants also big big...

LOL.

Be smart mates..these times are not easy like the old times.. gd luck.

rotijai ( Date: 23-Aug-2011 17:44) Posted:

haha, are u trying to learn master ipunter's style ?

at the first glance i thought it's master ipunter who posted this..

anyway, everyone's so bullish about stocks now :)

they will be more bullish if dow jones closes very green tonight

medivh ( Date: 23-Aug-2011 17:36) Posted:

I see many poor advice and some good advice.

Whether you like it or not.. the stock market is not a safe haven...

Not for your good health or good mind..

Because it never fails to make people either too worried or too estactic ..

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23-Aug-2011 17:36

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I see many poor advice and some good advice.

Whether you like it or not.. the stock market is not a safe haven...

Not for your good health or good mind..

Because it never fails to make people either too worried or too estactic ..

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23-Aug-2011 00:35

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I think you mean fry fish (ikan) and catch kite... when kite falls on their roof top.

The bottom line is everyone has their say...

Its up to you who you choose to believe...

utlimately your choice will make you either a winner or loser

warrenbegger ( Date: 22-Aug-2011 21:52) Posted:

Those so call expert backside analysis only know how to fly kite and catch fish only :)

ozone2002 ( Date: 22-Aug-2011 18:40) Posted:

In boom time, the experts will say the boom will never end..this time it's different..n then what happens markets crash...

In doom time, the experts say it's a recession,depression,will take a long time to recover.. n then what happens the markets rally to the moon..

So ask urself what are these experts saying now?.. probably the opposite of what they say will happen..

gd luck!!

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21-Aug-2011 23:34

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Still, many will get caught ...

because they only see what they want to see...

And they also can't see when their own eyes are so dusty already..

warrenbegger ( Date: 21-Aug-2011 23:13) Posted:

Stock odds is a lots better than Casino rubbish odds (Expect PVP Texas Holdem- This need real skill).

In Stock-

-U can see the market trend to favor your odds

-U can buy and hold in bull market

-U can hit and run in cow market

-U can short in bear market

-U can chose your horse

-U can get dividend

-U can use news and rumour

-U can see fear and panic

-U can see market confidence

-U can see ghost :)

Those lose because they cannot see anything, they just anyhow bets in wrong ways wrong times. Thats why many lose and fews win.

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21-Aug-2011 22:48

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Only the person who has the discipline will know how to take small bites.

Alas! In this world, many mindless people are panicky or greedy

And they will only know how to " Mau Sell" or " Mau buy"

Cause in the first place, they don't really care, whether they die or not.

Sadly, only their loved ones will care and be affected.

warrenbegger ( Date: 21-Aug-2011 22:19) Posted:

In this rotten times, if hand too itchy and wants to play with the market.

Just play small small for fun is ok, if U wrong also wont lose so much, treat it as buying a movies ticket to watch a horror show.

No buy no chance, got buy got chance.

Dont mau too big for chance, as u will also kill by chance.

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21-Aug-2011 22:43

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There are 2 sides to a coin, heads or tails.

Some may think betting on " head" is crap, some may think betting on " tail" is crap

Ultimately whether its heads or tails, the choice still lies with that person,

And that is the fact of everything in life, including the stock market.

iPunter ( Date: 21-Aug-2011 22:23) Posted:

But I think sifu will understand this...

that when you tell them, many will be against you...

Because many will feel bullish and they will tell

you " buy when everyone has fear" and all that crap.

Thus, this is the fact of the stock market.... Smiley

warrenbegger ( Date: 21-Aug-2011 22:19) Posted:

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20-Aug-2011 01:47

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People are funny and like to make predictions ...

When bear market comes, they say stock market crashing..

When stock market crashing, they say war coming ...

When war comes and many people start dying, they say end of the world ...

When end of the world not coming, people start buying the market again..and the cycle repeats.

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19-Aug-2011 19:45

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It will happen...

When everyone has already lost everything, and no one can afford a car then

xing78 ( Date: 19-Aug-2011 17:56) Posted:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-19/audi-cuts-a6-price-as-lure-for-u-s-bmw-mercedes-drivers-cars.html

I hope COE here will be back below SGD10k soon.

:p

iPunter ( Date: 19-Aug-2011 17:52) Posted:

The next leg down can be whopping drastic... Smiley

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19-Aug-2011 19:42

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Selling is the hurdle, everyone has a problem with...

If you sell and the next day it goes up, your heart sink..

If you sell and the next day it goes down, you will tempt to buy again, cycle repeats...

If you don't sell, the only best thing you can do is to wait...

Cause even if you sell when you already have lost everything, its no point selling

iPunter ( Date: 19-Aug-2011 19:29) Posted:

Holding seems to be the easiest thing to do...

Many are willing to hold because of their reasoning being it is

only paper loss and they are sure to make it back if they wait...

This very commonly encountered anywhere you go.

Usually, when they do let go, it is because of unbearable loss... Smiley

steadylar ( Date: 19-Aug-2011 18:59) Posted:

Rachel & everyone who bought in the recent deat cat bounce: ít's not the time to be hopeful....faster get out and stay sidelined. Do risk management--Preserve yr capital. A lot of people think they can bear with the paper loss, but later when they change their mind and give up, it'l be more painful.

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12-Aug-2011 11:58

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Agreed.

There's only 1 rule that I always think people should abide in stock mkt (however very few people know and they don't know how to.)

-> Don't blame others (broker, neighbour, ah pek , ah ma, kids, pet dog or cat etc.) when things turn out sour. Learn to control your emo.

iPunter ( Date: 12-Aug-2011 10:56) Posted:

Generally speaking, people mostly know how to buy stocks.

They will buy and then keep and keep (hold indefinitely).

So whenever they see people sell, they will become angry.

They hate people who sell. They only know how to

buy more because it's cheaper than before. But the

reality is, they have refused to accept the market for

what it is. There is uptrend and downtrend in the

stock markets. Up and down are two ways to invest... Smiley

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12-Aug-2011 10:48

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Forummers need to remember this: Don't get too EMO with others comments.

Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion.. just remember to take responsibility for what you own and said.

Isolator ( Date: 12-Aug-2011 10:29) Posted:

A stop must be in place ALWAYS..... I have said no CONTRA.... I cant spoon feed all..... I want to stop posting my view, but others request me to post.... When I post my view, others request me to stop.... Who to listen.... Anyway, there many jokers here too trying to prove that they are the best and always correct.... As for me, I always say I am wrong.... So why bother with my view.... This world is funny, when you good deed 10 times, but when you did 1 wrong, all the good deeds will be forgotten.... lol...

matthewscl ( Date: 12-Aug-2011 10:11) Posted:

No problem,..thats y i dont blame anyone...nevertheless, u did ask people to buy buy buy now if not regret right..(if i rem correctly)...didnt you? hahahha...

those stocks that u recommend drop too fast to exit...step brake also cannot brake in time...and not all trade both ways...and some has limited capital to play with...

nevertheless, my intention here is just to share my views from a newbie angle... just spare some thoughts to the new babies while commenting only lah... :) peace peace...i have learned from the hard way and will vest with more cautious..

last but not least, though u kept mentioning that u dont refer to news and only your charts...just rem...charts are guidelines..but afterall, shares are played by people..and people are affected by news... :) similarly, when u post " STI going to drop like Siao" ...some readers may be scared and start anyhow sell their shares even at great lost... thats y i am curious about your intention at the first place...what do you gain by posting such advise in the forums...just curious only...

happy trading all.. :) hope those who vested can get some profit today or cut lost..which ever comes first.. :) HUAT AH!.

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12-Aug-2011 10:43

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definition: newbies = someone who is new in the " game" or " business"

old birds = someone who is has " experienced" and have been in the " game or business" for sometime already

Thus for newbies to be old birds, they will have to experience the ups and downs of the market (thus also they may lose heavily or vice versa)

I always believe if one truely wants to learn how to trade or invest properly (which may take years), the person will meet with some setbacks (losing first) before he rise up (winning later).

Nevertheless, this is just MPO.

PS: if they don't lose, how will they ever learn not to (," )

iPunter ( Date: 12-Aug-2011 09:36) Posted:

This is very dangerous to newbies...

If more newbies catch the idea of becoming rich

through the stock market, they will not perform

well in their priamry occupations... plus, they will most

likely lose like sheet. Stocks betting is hardly

something to be encouraged, especially with

the view of making a killing. This of course

does not apply to those who can afford to

lose a lot of money if they lose... Smiley

medivh ( Date: 12-Aug-2011 09:31) Posted:

In order for newbies to become " Experienced" , they need to first learn to take a fall... many who become rich thru' stock mkt will tell you its not smooth sailing everytime..

No pain no gain (" ,) (" ,)

its all part of learning. (," ) (," )

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12-Aug-2011 09:31

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iPunter ( Date: 12-Aug-2011 09:15) Posted:

Newbies will be sure to buy when they see your post... lol... Smiley

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12-Aug-2011 09:14

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What I don't understand is that newbies or not newbies.. everyone makes mistakes.

Its whether you learn from your mistakes or not. (" ,) (," )

its almost similar to your saying " investing or trading, its all still a BET! We are all betting on the future..whether good or bad.. "

iPunter ( Date: 12-Aug-2011 08:43) Posted:

An experienced trader is very nimble,

ie. he/she can get out in a split second without thinking.

So if you are a newbie who is not nimble and agile like

an experienced trader, you must never never follow the

moves of an experienced trader... Smiley

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